World Shoot 10 Video

Has anyone shown this to Ivan yet?

Why? Because of the imposter with the black hair using my name?

It was definitely a prop intensive match with many memorable stages (helicopter, double decker bus, hanging from a telephone pole, a boat really floating in water, etc). I remember fun stages, bad weather, great people, frightening driving and terrible food.

-ivan-
 
I'm on there somewhere around the 16 minute mark. It was a very small stage starting laying on your back.... actually, a rather vanilla stage.

-ivan-
 
Ivan, how would you compare the kinds of stages you shot in Bisley 20 years ago to the stages we've shot at the last few World Shoots?
 
Comparing individual stages from various World Shoots is like comparing individual people in one crowd to another: you'll find similarities if you look for them. Every World Shoot had memorable stages.

The difference comes when you compare the matches as a whole. It's very difficult (nay: impossible?) to build a World Shoot match now that compares in shooting challenges to "the good old days". The two reasons that spring to mind are:
1) The number of competitors. While I don't recall the number of shooters in Bisley, it was no where near the size attending recently (presently it's 1100'ish competitors, plus hundreds of pre-match shooters). The smaller attendance at Bisley meant we shot every day, all day for 5 days. Presently the algorithm is to shoot 5 half days out of 6 full days. With less shooters you can shoot more stages... more stages = more fun.
2) The round counts were higher. Again: I'm working from memory, so I can't give the exact round count, but there wasn't the stringent 3 small to 2 medium to 1 large stage format that is written in stone now. While there were big stages and small stages, it wasn't as rigid and I believe there was therefore more rounds going down range. Presently the Open shooters do 1 reload per day (since there is only 1 32 round course per day at a modern World Shoot). Of course at Bisley, while high-cap race guns did exist, they were in their infancy and (from memory) we were running around 20'ish rounds max per mag, and therefore: more reloading.

Long story short: the old matches were better, but we are currently damned by success and with the popularity of these matches, it simply isn't feasible to get as many rounds downrange as we used to.

On the other hand, there are probably less problems/arbitrations at modern matches, because: a) the officiating is more consistent and b) rule loopholes have been closed and c) we've learned from our mistakes and stage problems that caused us grief in the past have been eliminated.

-ivan-
 
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Wonder if there is footage of the 1991(?) IPSC North American Championship held at Sharon around??

That was '92. While there were lots of people videotaping the shooting back then (video cameras were reasonable new and it was a fad for everyone to videotape), I don't recall anyone packaging and selling a tape of this match. The World Shoot Video above was professionally (?) done and sold after the match. To find footage of '92 North American Championships would require finding one/some of the individual shooters and seeing if they put anything online.

I do recall a video of Brad Hertz (the previous year's IPSC Canada Champ) shooting a stage with a rubber snake caught in the grip of his shooting hand... the snake dangling and bouncing around as Brad shot the stage... and he shot it very badly (he gave the laughing videographer a VERY nasty look on "Unload and Show Clear"... I wonder if he sees the humour in it now?)

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It's also sad that with our current laws, Canada will pretty much never be host to any international championship matches.
 
We still have that box and the snakes, they will likely make another appearance soon. Part of the sewer stage prop still exists. The two shot stages were balanced out with a few larger stages. I still have the match book.
 
So that's where that came from...

Mr Clean set up a stage like that at EOHC...about 8 years ago.

Bloody hell...I pulled out...one mag...3 snakes...

It was a fun stage...to watch


We still have that box and the snakes, they will likely make another appearance soon. Part of the sewer stage prop still exists. The two shot stages were balanced out with a few larger stages. I still have the match book.
 
It's also sad that with our current laws, Canada will pretty much never be host to any international championship matches.


Not true. IIRC, when IPSC Canada put in a bid for the 2005 World Shoot, the CFC was willing to allow foreign visitors to temporarily import and use full capacity mags. Freedom Ventures can probably provide details.
 
Not true. IIRC, when IPSC Canada put in a bid for the 2005 World Shoot, the CFC was willing to allow foreign visitors to temporarily import and use full capacity mags. Freedom Ventures can probably provide details.

The law at that time allowed for exemptions for competitions. There are no such provisions any more. The law would have to be changed for it to happen now.
 
The law at that time allowed for exemptions for competitions. There are no such provisions any more. The law would have to be changed for it to happen now.


Again, not true. Exemptions were allowed under C-17 (passed in 1992) but C-68 (the current 'Firearms Act - introduced in 1995) eliminated them.

The bid for the 2005 World Shoot would've been made in 2002; seven years after C-68 was introduced. Again, Freedom Ventures can probably provide accurate details since he and/or his father were the ones behind the bid.
 
Again, not true. Exemptions were allowed under C-17 (passed in 1992) but C-68 (the current 'Firearms Act - introduced in 1995) eliminated them.

The bid for the 2005 World Shoot would've been made in 2002; seven years after C-68 was introduced. Again, Freedom Ventures can probably provide accurate details since he and/or his father were the ones behind the bid.

I stand corrected. I had the time frame wrong.

How would it have worked though? Just an amnesty?

And if it had been allowed, how would Canadians have had a level playing field?
 
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