Tavor vs ACR

keep in mind the non-restricted ACR is the DMR model with that non-folding canoe paddle of a stock, so the handling will be polar opposites when comparing it with a Tavor.
 
I recently acquired both and am having a tough time deciding which I like more.
First I will say a high end ar trumps both tavor and acr at pretty much everything.
The acr is front heavy, even with the 16" barrel. The tavor balances beautifully, of course.
Mag changes, speed, etc. about the same.
The tavor has a better build quality. The acr is an outstanding design, but it's a bit loose like your typical bushmaster.
The acr is more consistently accurate. Roughly 1 to 1.5 moa. The tavor is in the 1.5 moa range with 75 grain handloads generally, but it does toss a round once in a while. The trigger perhaps.
The tavor spreads 55 grain of any kind around pretty badly, I had made up my mind to sell it based on the lighter projectile results. But the 75 grain was a dramatic improvement, 3.5moa difference.
The tavor is the better rifle, especially for practical use, and practical accuracy while hunting. But it is what it is, with no hope for improvement accuracy wise. The acr is potentially more flexible in application.
I'm going to keep both probably.
 
The thing about that dmr acr is, you might as well buy an sl8 with proven accuracy, if you're going to buy a rifle with all the weight out front.
I've owned an sl8 as well, and would put it well ahead of the acr on build quality.
 
cr5 said:
We haven't got the NR ACR yet but I prefer the restricted version personally. I would rather have one in the current restricted configuration but with a light 18.5 inch barrel to be non restricted. That's just me though and from the sounds of it many like the PRS stock and the heavier barrel.
Just so people know, that PRS stock can be put on the restricted model we currently have if you want it later when they start bringing in parts and the folding adjustable one we have now can be put on the new one when it comes.

It's hard to say which one will be more popular. If we are only talking about the NR version of the ACR that is coming then it will be even harder to pick, they are both very different and would be total opposites.
The ACR is a long barrel DMR type setup, I'm not sure what quality the barrel will be but from what people are saying about the accuracy of the 16 inch the 18.5 should be good as well. So in the accuracy department the ACR will win, but the Tavor is so compact and easy to carry and is still accurate enough just not as accurate.

I think it's going to come down to personal preference, If you like bullpups and want it for riding around in the truck and carrying it on a sling out in the bush the Tavor is the right choice but if you want a little more accuracy and don't mind giving up a little portability the ACR may be a better choice.

I don't think you can go wrong with either and I'm glad we have the choice to pick whichever one we want.

I think the best choice may actually be to buy both :D
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Well said, that pretty much sums it up. Personally I prefer the more compact choice, the smaller the better.
 
I just recently got a enhenced ACR mainly because of the familiar ergonomics. They definitely got these right on the ACR; they kept everything that worked well on the AR and changed what didn't. Add to that the 2 seconds caliber switch or the DMR to SBR reconfiguration... ACR wins for me.

I'd love a Tavor mind you
 
You'll want both. Different use. I have a Swiss Arms target setup as DMR with 6.5-20x scope. Bought it first then the Tavor. I still have both.

I would prefer the folding ACR stock over the PRS style they went with. Although I like PRS stocks on my accuracy AR rifles. But I think the PRS stock on the AR looks much better than the ACR one pictured.

I'm also interested in how accurate the barrels are for the ACR DMR. Stainless? I would hope not chrome lined.

It should bring down the value of the SL8 as well. Let's face it the nicest SL8 rifles look like they've been upgraded to ACR or G36 styles. At only a bit less than the ACR which doesn't require a bunch of aftermarket expense it's a pretty easy choice.
 
I just bought a Tavor, and see the ACR and Tavor as two different animals. However, I'm debating selling my DDM4 AR-15 to get a NR ACR. I wonder if the ACR is worth x2 price.
 
ntm said:
The thing about that dmr acr is, you might as well buy an sl8 with proven accuracy, if you're going to buy a rifle with all the weight out front.
I've owned an sl8 as well, and would put it well ahead of the acr on build quality.
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I'm not sure. I own an SL8-4 with HERA gen 2 lower and ACR stock. It can definitely shoot but to make it have the ergonomics I like (AR/ACR) you end up with around $4000 into the rifle.
My ACR cost me $2300 used and is going to cost me another $600-$700 to make it non restricted. When finished the ACR should shoot just as well since I'll be using a quality blank to build the barrel.
To top it off the ACR is going to end up with a 300blk barrel as well.
The SL8 is definitely a well built rifle that can shoot better than most other semi auto 223's out there but it is lacking the versatility and modularity of the ACR.
I like my SL8 but once my ACR is non restricted the HK is probably going up for sale.
 
I have the Tavor and Love it! I'm thinking I'm going to need to purchase an ACR!!! That rifle is ###y as f*** but the cost is a punch in the nuts!! We need some US pricing up in Canada... Why is it even so much more up here... Can anyone tell me?
 
To who else said a high end Ar15 will beat tavor...it depends on what you want the rifle for.
For compactness and balance, the tavor wins by so far its not even funny.
For spare parts, accuracy....ar15 is better.
 
Of course I'm going to have to add the ACR to my collection of NR black rifles. If the AR were NR I could of just bought one KAC LPR and been done with all this BS and just had one rifle in my collection lol. Seriously this is getting rediculous now.
 
andrew3081 said:
To who else said a high end Ar15 will beat tavor...it depends on what you want the rifle for.
For compactness and balance, the tavor wins by so far its not even funny.
For spare parts, accuracy....ar15 is better.
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The ar build I traded for the tavor stomped it for accuracy, trigger feel, lighter weight, and was actually more precise transitioning from target to target due to the longer length and skinnier forearm allowing a thumb over bore grip.
Without classification considered, the only advantage the tavor has, over that particular build, is shorter length.

A pic of that build.
The noveske 16" lightweight ss barrel is where the magic was.

 
Lets face it we all know a high quality ar like a kac or noveske is the best. And frankly, yes, if these laws weren't just so idiotic i'd just have a 16 inch kac in 223 and a 20 inch kac in 308, but we have to face the realities of classification and thats why we're having all these discussions.
Thats why we talk about chilean firearms, isreali exotic weapons platforms, and the dumpy frumpy non versatile t97 and now this new bushmaster
 
andrew3081 said:
To who else said a high end Ar15 will beat tavor...it depends on what you want the rifle for.
For compactness and balance, the tavor wins by so far its not even funny.
For spare parts, accuracy....ar15 is better.
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Consider this,
If you are comparing a restricted class Tavor to an AR then who wins?

If you no longer factor in the non restricted classification of the Tavor I can't think of any category where it will outshine an AR unless you say they must both have the same length barrel, if you leave it open to use any barrel length you desire the advantage disappears. If you put a 10.5-12 inch barrel on an AR it will still shoot better groups that the Tavor and now the short overall length advantage of the Tavor is gone. A small loss in velocity isn't going to change anything when it comes to putting rounds on target by an experienced shooter.
No one can really argue that when it comes to position of controls and ease of use the AR wins. Also, like you said, for parts supply AR also wins. I do feel that the parts supply for the Tavor will catch up now that they are becoming more popular.

I'm not bashing the Tavor, I do like them but to me the only advantage they have over an AR is the non restricted status.
Personally, I can't think of any reason someone would buy one over an AR if the AR was non restricted.
The price would have to drop more than half for someone to buy one if the AR was non restricted.
 
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