Dot sights: Aimpont VS Trijicon

C77 said:
When the CF bought the EOTech, they were not yet owned by L3. I had one on my first tour in Afghanistan and it worked okay, but all four other ones we had went down for various reasons - two needed new battery compartments, two had the magic just leave. On my second tour my EOTech died within a month and I finished the tour with a Comp M4, no issues, no battery change. We use RDS for most courses now and the EOTech's come loose, the Comp M4 and M3 and PRO have torque knobs and stay on and keep zero.

EOTech claims to have improved this with the current production, but I have not used any of those yet.

The US army, most recently, bought only Aimpoint. The last contract was for over 500K sights. One million in service with US army alone.

EOTechs zero tends to drift with temperature as the laser refracts differently - the collimating hologram is supposed to stop this in theory, but we found differently over the last ten years particularly in the fall with morning frost and warm afternoons.
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I'd read about the battery compartment issue before. I think it was mentioned on AR15.com that it had to do with recoil knocking something out of alignment due to the batteries being mounted longitudinally. It was apparently the primary reason the battery compartment was switched to transversal for the XPS/EXPS series.

I wasn't aware of the zero drift issue. It makes sense.
 
I have both aimpoints and eotechs, and although the aimpoint is pretty awesome, I find the illumination and the reticle type for hold over to be far better on the eotech.

But really both are very high quality red dots, so either you're definitely fine with.
 
with the right zero there is no need to know holdovers.....at super close range place dot on top of head or Azone and fire away
 
I have had both the rmr and aimpoint. Currently only have aimpoints for the above mentioned reasons. Rmr was nice but the dot was too big, couldnt adjust brightness etc. Have both a t1 and m3. Both are great.
 
Run a 50/200 zero......put dot on target pull trigger....that simple, I can run a 2moa Aimpoint micro out to 300 meters pretty good and easy


Seems lots of guys want there carbines to be a "sniper rifle" your carbine is NOT a PR gun! So live with the fact that a torso(A/B zone) hit is a hit with the right zero its point and bang and hit
 
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I have used everything except Trijicon so I can't comment on them. Of everything else, I stayed with Eotech or Aimpoint. Both are awesome.
 
past a 100 acogs and elcans are in a different class if most shooting is done under a 100 id recommend a rds aimpont and eotech both top notch my pick would be aimpoint micro
 
Thanks for all the replies. Seems I was already on the right track. I don't see the point in getting a Trijicon when the Aimpoint will last 5 years on a single battery. By the time the tritium needs to be replaced I'll only be on the second battery for an Aimpoint.
I like the EOtech but not the battery life, so that makes it a no go for me.
I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the H-1. I just have a few more questions. Whats the difference between a micro and something like the Comp m4 or m3? Obviouslly they're all quality, but to me a dot is a dot. Is there any advantages one has over the other? The only reason I'm leaning towards the micro is because I like the way it looks.
 
the micro.....well its micro in size IMHO its the best RDS made.I get the "well the Eotech was a better field of view" chatter all the time but when you shoot with both eyes open its a moot point
 
Madmardigan said:
Thanks for all the replies. Seems I was already on the right track. I don't see the point in getting a Trijicon when the Aimpoint will last 5 years on a single battery. By the time the tritium needs to be replaced I'll only be on the second battery for an Aimpoint.
I like the EOtech but not the battery life, so that makes it a no go for me.
I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the H-1. I just have a few more questions. Whats the difference between a micro and something like the Comp m4 or m3? Obviouslly they're all quality, but to me a dot is a dot. Is there any advantages one has over the other? The only reason I'm leaning towards the micro is because I like the way it looks.
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Other than the size they're pretty much all the same. There will be some differences between models in regards to number of brightness settings, NV/non-NV, battery type, etc. Battery life also varies between the different models but at a minimum you're still talking tens of thousands of hours between changes so I doubt it would matter much to most users. If you're really interested in comparing all the minutia of the different models, Aimpoint has a product comparison here. One thing you might want to note is that it's harder to find lens covers for the Micro. With the larger Aimpoints you can just use the snap-on covers but the Micro is limited to either the bikini covers or the Tango Down IO covers.
 
If you go Aimpoint, you might as well go with the micro and save the weight. I don't really see much benefit with going with a Comp M4 or PRO over the Micro, except for maybe a bit of price difference. IMO the weight difference is worth it.
 
The micro has some limitation - under certain indoor light condition, the circuit board is reflected and showed up in the sight picture. Kinda funny but distracting as well. The intensity dial is also a bit harder to use with thick winter gloves. Of course, it cannot be submerged as deep as the M4, but that is pretty irrelevant to 99.75% of the users. If I am submerged at 45ft, i am dead.

I like to use the big ones because the frame of the micro covers the area closer to the target. It is the same effect of staring through peep aperture sight, the frame of the rear sight is covering up target area. I would think areas immediate to the target are more interesting.

I will say that most military go with the big one because of these factors, and the fact that AA battery is everywhere and no one wants to inventory CR123.
 
greentips said:
I will say that most military go with the big one because of these factors, and the fact that AA battery is everywhere and no one wants to inventory CR123.
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I would have thought the CR123 would be pretty common in military inventories since Surefire lights and the late generation laser designators and Eotechs all run off them.
 
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