Does everyone spend 300+ dollars on weapon lights???

WHAT ARE YOU USING THESE LIGHTS FOR???? I have a $5 light mounted to my 22 for coon hunting, it has seen thousands of rounds cold weather, been chucked into the car, dragged trough the woods and just keeps going, 200lm cree zoomable strobe-high-low on a $3 mount all from ebay.

^^^^yep, all day long! And if it breaks, you just buy another cheap light! LOL
 
There are a lot of clones of Surefires, Streamlights, etc. coming out of China that can put out similar lumens to the genuine articles. They're generally not anything you'd want to put on a firearm however as they're not designed to stand up to extended recoil and their overall durability and QC leaves quite a bit to be desired. Do you have any evidence of real Surefires being manufactured in China? Also 1,000-2,000 lumens sounds like a bit much considering weaponlights rarely exceed a few hundred. Anything more than that tends to put out too much light and you risk blinding yourself if it reflects off an interior wall.

Sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. Flashlights aren't like scopes that can lose zero. They're solid state electronics with a LED that's virtually indesctructible. As for the too much light - there's like a bazillion different Ultrafire models, many of which have different modes for different amount of light. The 1000-2000 lumens high level setting is blinding, and excellent in a self-defence application.

The one I bought has 5 settings, you change the mode by pressing for an extended time vs a short quick press to turn on/off - amazing value for $11. At that price, you have no excuse not to buy one to try out.
 
I'd like to get a weapon light but I don't think I'm prepared to drop 300$ on one. I've had flashlights from Streamlight and Pellican and they've been awesome but none of them have been 300$.

What are the options out there for something of good quality? I'm not interested in NCStar $hit but there has to be some middle ground.

Suggestions?

As well, I'm not a fan of the ones that are built into the vertical grips, just something simple with an on/off button that can attach to a 1913 rail.

The Eotech L3 WL1-AA Tactical Weapon Light w/ Laser Long Gun Kit one comes with a 200 yard green laser, 450$ It has the side button switch and cable, picatinny quick mount.
Worth the money!!! I have it on my Tavor.
 
The Inforce ones seem quite well regarded, the Steeamlights as well, but now I'm curious to know which Chinese ones you guys are buying. Any company name etc?

Sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. Flashlights aren't like scopes that can lose zero. They're solid state electronics with a LED that's virtually indesctructible. As for the too much light - there's like a bazillion different Ultrafire models, many of which have different modes for different amount of light. The 1000-2000 lumens high level setting is blinding, and excellent in a self-defence application.

The one I bought has 5 settings, you change the mode by pressing for an extended time vs a short quick press to turn on/off - amazing value for $11. At that price, you have no excuse not to buy one to try out.
 
Klarus XT2C U2.

Costs about $50, they've got a pressure switch available for $20, 600 lumens, strobe/instant on, comes with an extra set of buttons in case you wear yours out, and they're overall great quality. They've got lower lumen output models if you need something much dimmer.

I've got a couple Ultrafire flashlights and while they're cheap and super bright, quality seemed a bit hit or miss. They change all the time though, so there may be some really good ones out there now. The Ultrafire 18650 batteries that I got with the flashlights were pretty crappy; highly exaggerated mAh numbers.
 
Flashlights aren't like scopes that can lose zero. They're solid state electronics with a LED that's virtually indesctructible.

No.. but you have different issues with flashlights..

1) proper circuit design that does not drain the battery over time

2) Proper milling and annodization that does not cause draining, or oxidation buildup and bad connections.

3) Proper heat sinking and damage to LED due to heat.

Now.. that's not to say you can't have a cheap ultrafire/dx light that does have it.. but you might not get what you want/need by just buying from a "catalog" and hoping.. I've bought MANY dx lights.. some bad, some ok, some great. But they were a crap shoot. Also the "UI" of the light is very important for a weapon light.. one that you can SET and STAY in the mode you want, not one that changes if you flick it on/off for a split second.. 90% of the lights from DX have a user interface that will change the settings when you don't want it to (in a weapon's use scenario) the one you describe that you change by "quick click" is not what you want from a weapons light perspective.. you want a simple twist high/low that you can do while it's mounted with gross motor skills.



Not sure if the issues are worth considering for the OP based on his use..
 
No.. but you have different issues with flashlights..

1) proper circuit design that does not drain the battery over time

2) Proper milling and annodization that does not cause draining, or oxidation buildup and bad connections.

3) Proper heat sinking and damage to LED due to heat.

Now.. that's not to say you can't have a cheap ultrafire/dx light that does have it.. but you might not get what you want/need by just buying from a "catalog" and hoping.. I've bought MANY dx lights.. some bad, some ok, some great. But they were a crap shoot. Also the "UI" of the light is very important for a weapon light.. one that you can SET and STAY in the mode you want, not one that changes if you flick it on/off for a split second.. 90% of the lights from DX have a user interface that will change the settings when you don't want it to (in a weapon's use scenario) the one you describe that you change by "quick click" is not what you want from a weapons light perspective.. you want a simple twist high/low that you can do while it's mounted with gross motor skills.



Not sure if the issues are worth considering for the OP based on his use..

Yeah I agree with you, but for utility, those $200 lights aren't needed for anyone who isn't a professional (soldier etc.). For self defence, all you need is to make sure you can identify your target, and blind them too.
 
We dropped Surefire for a couple of reasons...now sell Fenix and we are very satisfied with the product and distributor support. We are about to have a final clearance on Surefire products (many are out dated but the price will reflect that). Phil.
 
Let me clarify my last post. We didn't drop Surefire because of the quality of the product. It is still the first choice for most LEO and military organizations in the free world, but since most of the customets I sell to don't have daily hard use life and death moments with theit lights then there are several other more cost effective products for the intended use. Also most LEO/ Mil orders are supplied either directly from the manufacturer or distributor and we only supplied the occasional individual member for duty use. Phil.
 
The best weapon lights you can buy these days are the Inforce line, they have seen theatre use and are endorsed with design input by many guys who really run their kits hard. I am a convert who used to run solely on Surefires, but the legacy/combat proven/lego aspect of Surefire still makes it gold standard.

Like with all things with glass involved, you get what you pay for.
 
The Surefire Fury is a good bang for your buck light, as far as Surefire goes. There's good mounts out there for well under $50.
 
I have to be really tight on time to buy a $300+ light.

Usually what I do is wait for $300 lights to go on sale for under $200.

My handheld is a Klarus XT2C though, which is about a fifty or sixty dollar light. I bought it for the interface which is the best I have ever seen.

I like Surefire for mounting on my guns. The Streamlight TLR series are decent but I don't like having some TLRs and some X300s...I have done that in a low light class and by the end of the second day when I was getting tired I'd be trying to push my TLRs on because I was so used to the X300 switch.

All of my TLRs are getting replaced with X300s.

I'd like to give the Inforce APL a go, that's the only other light that currently interests me.
 
I'd like to give the Inforce APL a go, that's the only other light that currently interests me.

They're great lights. Actually some people use them as carbine lights too:

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TLR1 has been on my Kriss, Rem 870, Tavor and AR (same light) and has never given me a problem. Plenty bright, fairly small, mounts easily. I got the accessory tail cap and pressure switch. Total investment is under $200 and it has its own built in mount. Very worth while IMO.
 
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