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[stubblejumper]

Not sure how you can make it look like more bang flops than there are.

Read my post again. What I posted was;

The end result is that editing out the less than clean kills ,gives the impression that the percentage of bang flops is much higher than it really is.

It's quite obvious that I didn't post that they made it look like there were more bang flops than there were, what I did post, was that by editing out the kills that weren't bang flops, you can give the impression that the percentage of bang flops was higher than it really was. In other words, if 20 out of 40 actual kills were bang flops, and you edited out 10 of the of the kills because they showed wounded animals suffering, the percentage of bang flops would go from an actual 50%(20 out of 40 kills that were shown), to a perceived 67%(20 out of the 30 kills that were shown).

 

[sheephunter]

Read my post again. What I posted was;



It's quite obvious that I didn't post that they made it look like there were more bang flops than there were, what I did post, was that by editing out the kills that weren't bang flops, you can give the impression that the percentage of bang flops was higher than it really was. In other words, if 20 out of 40 actual kills were bang flops, and you edited out 10 of the of the kills because they showed wounded animals suffering, the percentage of bang flops would go from an actual 50%(20 out of 40 kills that were shown), to a perceived 67%(20 out of 30 kills that were shown).

Perhaps but just getting enough kills for a 26-week season is challenging enough without leaving 10 kills out of the show. Don't know for sure but for most shows getting enough kills is the biggest challenge but hey, you could be right.

 

[guido]

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[Brian46]

I only shot 2 deer this year, both were bang flops, why are people doubting you can bang flop?

 

[DrWho]

For me yes. If I can't hit a gong every time at a certain distance with no pressure to shoot, I have to believe my odds go way down when a real animal is in front of me. The same rules would apply for much shorter range shooting too from the standing position. To me the gong is the great equalizer and my benchmark as to my ability.

We have a saying on here in Lotus Land for all they long range high tech shooters its called " Dial a Pray"

 

[Waxy]

With the right coach at your side nearly anyone could make that shot with minimal range time. Actually the less firearm experience the better. Heck, I can have someone that has never fired a rifle banging the gong 5 times out of 5 at 600 yards with a few minutes of instruction

Ever thought about taking up coaching football?

I'm sure if you told Jerry Jones who you are he'd hire you today. The Cowboys are terrible, so no worries there about them having any previous skills, and that would give you 5 whole days to instruct the team. With that kinda time the right coach should have the Cowboys defense playing better than the 85 Bears and have plenty of time left over to transform Romo into Joe Montana incarnate.

Waxy

 

[hoytcanon]

I only shot 2 deer this year, both were bang flops, why are people doubting you can bang flop?

I don't doubt it can be done but it either means a CNS shot or a massive bone structure shot... The CNS shot is just too risky and the massive bone shot will require disgarding a lot of damaged meat... I have made a couple band flop shots, both were because I missed badly where I was aiming... With the exception of a sheep or goat standing on a cliff face, I personally believe there is no good reason to advocate shooting for a "bang flop."

 

[blargon]

I only shot 2 deer this year, both were bang flops, why are people doubting you can bang flop?

Sure, but were they at 800yds...

 

[patty59]

More like with the pilot at your side but ya, not a bad analogy.

 

[Duffy]

LOL...that is irony perfected!

LOL... yes he posted it at 4:22 am which shows his "intense interest" in the thread...

And you posted at 4:25 am pointing out the irony of his post.

I reckon "long range shots in hunting" has become one of the big controversial topics in hunting circles, particularly on the net. One of those topics that really has no black and white right or wrong but a lot of passion from both sides in the grey.

 

[norskie]

LOL... yes he posted it at 4:22 am which shows his "intense interest" in the thread...

And you posted at 4:25 am pointing out the irony of his post.

I reckon "long range shots in hunting" has become one of the big controversial topics in hunting circles, particularly on the net. One of those topics that really has no black and white right or wrong but a lot of passion from both sides in the grey.

Are you in Australia again there Duffy?

 

[Duffy]

With the right coach at your side nearly anyone could make that shot with minimal range time. Actually the less firearm experience the better. Heck, I can have someone that has never fired a rifle banging the gong 5 times out of 5 at 600 yards with a few minutes of instruction but that does not mean they are in any way ready to spread their wings and fly on their own. I think showing kids shooting this gear does well demonstrate how simple it is to use but I think anyone with half a brain realizes that there's a lot more that goes into it if you plan to do it on your own without a coach at your side.

I don't always agree with you Sheephunter but I rarely call, B.S. Its not polite. But then pure B.S. is not polite ether.

 

[Duffy]

Are you in Australia again there Duffy?

No but I just noticed that my post is timed at 3:something p.m. and it is really 8:00 in the morning.

I apologize for the timing mistake. sheephunter's post was not so ironical as yours.

 

[sheephunter]

I don't always agree with you Sheephunter but I rarely call, B.S. Its not polite. But then pure B.S. is not polite ether.

What part was BS Duffy...It's not difficult to teach someone to properly squeeze a trigger, especially when they've never done it before and developed a bunch of bad habits. Really not much more to hitting a gong at 600 yards if someone else has done all the set up.

 

[norskie]

No but I just noticed that my post is timed at 3:something p.m. and it is really 8:00 in the morning.

I apologize for the timing mistake. sheephunter's post was not so ironical as yours.

What can I say - I like humour. And there is plenty of it here.

Have a good one!

 

[patty59]

What part was BS Duffy...It's not difficult to teach someone to properly squeeze a trigger, especially when they've never done it before and developed a bunch of bad habits. Really not much more to hitting a gong at 500 yards if someone else has done all the set up.

I'm guessing the whole thing about anyone being able to make an 800 yard shot in the field. Possibly the 5 out 5 600 yard gong shot by an inexperienced shooter.

where are you getting this 500 yard number?

It's getting all over the map here.

 

[supernova]

I think sheephunter is trying to say once his rifle is all setup for the shot he can put a newbie behind it and coach them through the hold and squeeze (I.e. easy part) and get them making hits. And I agree with that and the fact that had that same inexperienced shooter been handed that rifle out of the case and told to set it up and make those shots on his own he would fall flat on his face.

 

[sheephunter]

I'm guessing the whole thing about anyone being able to make an 800 yard shot in the field. Possibly the 5 out 5 600 yard gong shot by an inexperienced shooter.

where are you getting this 500 yard number?

It's getting all over the map here.

Ooops.....mistyped. I got the 600 number from first hand experience but I have no doubt that it could be done at 800 too with the proper gear. All you need to do is teach someone to squeeze a trigger. I'm not really certain why people are having so much trouble believing it. Perhaps the ego is a fragile thing...I'm not sure,.

 

[sheephunter]

I think sheephunter is trying to say once his rifle is all setup for the shot he can put a newbie behind it and coach them through the hold and squeeze (I.e. easy part) and get them making hits. And I agree with that and the fact that had that same inexperienced shooter been handed that rifle out of the case and told to set it up and make those shots on his own he would fall flat on his face.

Exactly. Ensure proper cheek weld and teach them how to squeeze a trigger and Bob's your uncle. With the rifle resting on both the forestock and rear stock and only one hand touching the rifle, there isn't much to screw up.

 

[guido]

I wish I lived in a perfect world.