Pamela Anderson make offer to Canadian Sealer’s Association

Mark Critch was the only part of it that was newsworthy. They'll have to come up with a lot more than $165 for me to give up my sealing license, that's for sure.

I'll give up seal hunting here if Pamela comes to visit and asks me in person.
 
I JUST GOT BACK TO THE HOUSE WITH MY UNCLE (lifetime NFLD fisherman, I am visiting him for CHRISTMAS) and we just POPPED 2 seals that were down at the end of the harbour. Ask him what "PAM" is good for, and he will tell you its to keep the seal flippers from sticking to the frying pan!!!!
Could Mark Critch please let PAMELA know that she doesn't have to worry about those 2 anymore. The .22-250 with a 45gr pill spread the seals memories all over the ice pan.
 
You think its a little "barbaric" because you're projecting your emotion based opinion into the equation, and ignoring the science. Killing anything isn't pretty. Ask the animals that gave you your supper or leather products.

No, actually I think it is a little barbaric because a club is the weapon that cave men used to hunt with... I'm not against the seal hunt, not at all, so don't get that impression. I believe that people should have the right to hunt seals every bit as much as they should have the right to hunt anything else. I do on the other hand feel that walking up to the animal and hitting it in the head until it is dead is not the best way to win any popularity points with the media or non hunters.



I am guessing you aren't a hunter, then, because you would never shoot more than once.

No, I'm not a hunter. I have no need to hunt, therefore I don't. I can provide food for my table and clothing for my family without killing so I don't do it. And yes, I know I know, that food that I eat was killed by someone, and I'm fine with that, that's the circle of life and the food chain. But, if I was a hunter, I would never take a shot that I wasn't sure was a good one. When hunting with a rifle you have a very good chance, with proper shot placement, that you are going to quickly and humainly kill the animal with one shot. How can you compare walking up to an animal and hitting it on the head with a club that you KNOW is not going to kill it with the first shot to shooting it in the head with a rifle, something that will kill with one shot? I view it as inhumane because the animal suffers. And if you want to argue with that, let someone hit you in the head with a club and tell me that you don't suffer because of it.


Inhumane? Think about that statement the next time you're standing over your BBQ cooking steak, then go visit a slaughter plant.

Well, it's a good thing that I never said that the methods used to kill in slaughter plants are humaine now isn't it?

Just for the record, I have seen the way that the meat that I buy is put to death, and it is as humaine as possible. There are lots of plants out there that are not, no question, but I choose to pay a little more for locally raised, hormone and chemical free meat that is killed quickly and humainly.


Also, just for the record, I don't support PETA in any way, nor do I believe in 99.9% of what they stand for. They are an organization based on mis-information and flawed beliefs.
 
so to do a humane kill , you need to shoot, club, stab, bleed , poke.... are we killing seals or are we after Rasputin in the movie hellboy??
 
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No, actually I think it is a little barbaric because a club is the weapon that cave men used to hunt with... I'm not against the seal hunt, not at all, so don't get that impression. I believe that people should have the right to hunt seals every bit as much as they should have the right to hunt anything else. I do on the other hand feel that walking up to the animal and hitting it in the head until it is dead is not the best way to win any popularity points with the media or non hunters.

News flash. Shooting a seal with a rifle isn't going to make PETA et al shut up and go away. Truth is, it has nothing to do with how the animal is dispatched. Its merely a propaganda talking point. See other PETA policies for why.

No, I'm not a hunter. I have no need to hunt, therefore I don't. I can provide food for my table and clothing for my family without killing so I don't do it.

I don't need to hunt, either, but I enjoy both the activity and bringing wild game to the table. Another news flash. You're NOT able to provide food for your table and clothing for your family without killing. You just don't do it yourself.

And yes, I know I know, that food that I eat was killed by someone, and I'm fine with that, that's the circle of life and the food chain. But, if I was a hunter, I would never take a shot that I wasn't sure was a good one. When hunting with a rifle you have a very good chance, with proper shot placement, that you are going to quickly and humainly kill the animal with one shot.

You're not a hunter, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that your "one shot - one instant kill" theory is about as realistic as providing food and clothing for your family without there being any killing involved.

How can you compare walking up to an animal and hitting it on the head with a club that you KNOW is not going to kill it with the first shot to shooting it in the head with a rifle, something that will kill with one shot? I view it as inhumane because the animal suffers. And if you want to argue with that, let someone hit you in the head with a club and tell me that you don't suffer because of it.

You're back to believing the propaganda again, because the club or hakapik is quite capable of killing with a single blow. But let's be honest, the suffering isn't really a problem for you. You're quite happy to let someone else inflict it for you.

Just for the record, I have seen the way that the meat that I buy is put to death, and it is as humaine as possible. There are lots of plants out there that are not, no question, but I choose to pay a little more for locally raised, hormone and chemical free meat that is killed quickly and humainly.

You obtain all of your meat and leather products locally? Impressive. I'm curious to hear about these fail safe humane methods.
 
I am so stoked. I think I might just have to re-relocate back to NFLD. I just cleaned the Father-in-law's .223rem that I bought him 8 years ago (I am sooooooo smart!!!!) anyhow, I just found about 750 rounds of 45gr Winchester white box ammo in the basement, so I am going to be parking my ass down at the head of the harbour in the morning and am gonna get myself some sealmeat. (with him of course, I don't have a sealing licence, but he does)
Since I don't have a clue on how to "process" a seal, I am going to ride his coat tales for the first few. Pest control has never been so fun. Call PETA on me. Bang/flop is as good as it gets ethically.
 
News flash. Shooting a seal with a rifle isn't going to make PETA et al shut up and go away. Truth is, it has nothing to do with how the animal is dispatched. Its merely a propaganda talking point. See other PETA policies for why.



I don't need to hunt, either, but I enjoy both the activity and bringing wild game to the table. Another news flash. You're NOT able to provide food for your table and clothing for your family without killing. You just don't do it yourself.



You're not a hunter, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that your "one shot - one instant kill" theory is about as realistic as providing food and clothing for your family without there being any killing involved.



You're back to believing the propaganda again, because the club or hakapik is quite capable of killing with a single blow. But let's be honest, the suffering isn't really a problem for you. You're quite happy to let someone else inflict it for you.



You obtain all of your meat and leather products locally? Impressive. I'm curious to hear about these fail safe humane methods.

For a minute there I had to take a double check to see that your screen name wasn't sunray, could have fooled me with your convient quoting...

First off, I never said that shooting a seal would get PETA off there backs, I said that IN MY OPINION it would be less barbaric.

As for your second comment, if you haden't cut your quote off where you did, it would CLEARLY say "and yes, I know, I know, that food that I eat was killed by someone, and I'm fine with that". So... Your comment literally reiterated my statement.

Next, my view of "one shot, one kill" was quite clearly outlined as "a very good chance" not as anything else. If you are saying that it is impossible to kill an animal with one shot I would be willing to bet that there are a lot here that will disagree with you. Yes, there are times when hunting that a second shot is necessary to complete the job, but it is not a given. As previously stated, with a rifle you have A VERY GOOD CHANCE to achieve one shot, one kill WITH PROPER SHOT PLACEMENT.

Now, as for your fourth comment... Maybe the club is capable of killing with one shot, however, it is far from a given. As far as the suffering of the animal goes, I must ask who it is that you think you are making a statement like this?? Where is it that you get the idea that the suffering of an animal is not an issue for me?? Can you please, with your excellent quoting skills, show me where it is that I made that statement?? I did state that I am fine with others doing the killing of the animals that I purchase for food, however I aslo stated that I purchase ALL of my meat at a local butcher where the kills are done humainly. But you know that, because your next partial quote of what I said shows that.

And yes, I do purchase all of my meat at a local butcher, and yes, they kill the animals in a humane way in comparison to the horror stories that you can find about large slaughter farms. News flash for you, if you're willing to spend a few more dollars, you can buy things that are handled the way that you want them to be. You should try it some time, the meat is much better for you and better tasting. But maybe the things that happen at the big slaughter places are ok with you. Don't ask, don't tell, right?
 
On a side note, could someone here in NL with a seal licence help me obtain one? I know my FIL had one for personal use. I think he was allowed 5 seals a year.
Thanks.
 
If she where really concerned about Conservation of Seals in Newfoundland and Labrador she might consider buying as many if not all the licenses from the guys who are doing this as a living ...you know a job that pays the bills and taxes by doing a dangerous and hands on job. Anyways, not much more to say about that topic.
Rob
 
I wonder what Pam and PETA's plan is to deal with the depletion of the schools of fish that so many rely on for food and a livelyhood is, once the seal population is allowed to grow un-checked and they eat all the fish... It's funny how most activists never look at the big picture.
 
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