IWI cancels 5.45x39 Tavor conversion kit

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One of the major selling points of the Tavor rifle was that you could swap calibers with the push of a couple buttons and a conversion kit. They promised that we’d see kits for 5.45, 9mm and 300 AAC Blackout, but it looks like they’re scaling back their promises. According to a posting on the Bullpup forum, callers are being informed that due to “issues” with the Soviet-era 5.45×39 caliber conversion kit they’re stopping production and will not produce any more. Naturally, this has annoyed many of the people who bought the Tavor specifically due to the caliber conversions that were advertised. We will update you with more when we hear back from the Tavor reps.
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Aside from the cheap factor I don't know what the big atteaction is with 5.45 over 5.56. To my knowledge no one makes reloadable cases and the bullets are also nearly impossible to get. A couple of years ago the ammo was dirt cheap but that is changing. Also, if the foreign supplies dry up you're likely to end up with a conversion kit you can't use due to lack of ammo. It may have a few battlefield applications but since most of use aren't buying it to cap Taliban insurgents anyway I think it's an answer to a question nobody asked.
 
Ebola said:
Not a biggie for us as that ammunition is barely in Canada if at all. Now cancelling the 9mm kit would make me a sad cookie.
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No #### because we barely have any rifles chambered in it available , there is no reason for dealers to import large shipments of surplus ammo .. If we could get a VZ58, Tavor, T97 or more ARs in that caliber someone might make the investment to bring in a shipment of surplus ammo and its even cheaper than 7.62x39 , i think in the US the corrosive surplus sells for about $120 for 2000 round crate . Budget Shooter Supply already said he could bring it up from the US at near the same price point if there was a reason for demand .
 
ted_dent said:
Aside from the cheap factor I don't know what the big atteaction is with 5.45 over 5.56. To my knowledge no one makes reloadable cases and the bullets are also nearly impossible to get. A couple of years ago the ammo was dirt cheap but that is changing. Also, if the foreign supplies dry up you're likely to end up with a conversion kit you can't use due to lack of ammo. It may have a few battlefield applications but since most of use aren't buying it to cap Taliban insurgents anyway I think it's an answer to a question nobody asked.
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You can be sure that when there's a cheap source of ammo to feed it, someone will build it. Many years ago now, many American shooters who owned Browning 1919's converted their guns from .30-06 to 8x57mm when there was dirt cheap Turkish and Yugoslavian ammo available. Consider the situation we have with 7.62x39mm ammo. In addition to the plethora of SKS rifles, look at the XCR that's available here how or the many VZ-58 copies that were essentially made from surplus or refurbished parts to satisfy the shooting public who wanted something other than a SKS.
 
boss351cleveland said:
No #### because we barely have any rifles chambered in it available , there is no reason for dealers to import large shipments of surplus ammo .. If we could get a VZ58 or Tavor in that caliber someone might make the investment to bring in a shipment of surplus ammo and its even cheaper than 7.62x39 , i think in the US the corrosive surplus sells for about $120 for 2000 round crate . Budget Shooter Supply already said he could bring it up from the US at near the same price point if there was a reason for demand .
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It's a Mexican standoff then isn't it? What's going to come first? The chicken or the egg?
 
2bad4u2 said:
You can be sure that when there's a cheap source of ammo to feed it, someone will build it. Many years ago now, many American shooters who owned Browning 1919's converted their guns from .30-06 to 8x57mm when there was dirt cheap Turkish and Yugoslavian ammo available. Consider the situation we have with 7.62x39mm ammo. In addition to the plethora of SKS rifles, look at the XCR that's available here how or the many VZ-58 copies that were essentially made from surplus or refurbished parts to satisfy the shooting public who wanted something other than a SKS.
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I don't disagree. I remember about 8 years ago at the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot when you could buy a 1440 round case of Turkish 8mm for $80. It was only about 4 years ago that a 1000 rounds of Wolf FMJ non-corrosive 7.62x39 was $119. The biggest problem with the 5.45x39 is that unlike 7.62x39, which is produced by many countries, right now there are only a very limited number of places producing 5.45. Unless a lot more countries jump on this calibre owners of guns in this chambering are going to be at the mercy of a few suppliers and that guarantees price jumps. And I stand by my original contention that aside from cheap (at the moment) cost, I can't see any real advantage of 5.45 over 5.56.
 
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