S&W Revolver enthusiasts HELP!

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Ok so it's not as desperate as it sounds, but I'd love to know something about this new toy I've got

I don't recall the model number of this S&W .357 revolver, but I have a picture. My main question is why it's marked "144 of 500"? It leads me to assume its of a limited run, but of what? It has teak target grips on it and I think target sights. I'm a tactical toy kinda guy, so I know nothing of this wheel gun.


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PPC gun. Looks like a rebarrelled 686 with a Wichita rib. Swing out the cylinder and there will be a model number on the frame.
 
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Cool, well thanks for your help!

Would the barrel and rib be an aftermarket add on? Or did they make them like this

Also, does anyone know why it's marked /500? I know they made 500 of the model, but I'd love to know what the specifics are
 
Custom barrel, lug and Wichita Rib Sight. It's a limited edition, but could be any model. Swing out the cylinder and look for numbers/letters. Any names on the barrel?
Since it's a Limited Edition that's been modified it's collector value is gone, but is worth something as a PPC gun.
 
I'm going to get my hands on it again at some point in the next few days. I'll keep you guys updated. With any info I get/more pictures


This may find its way to the EE very soon though. I'm not a wheel gunner, I like the fancy black guns.
 
Murray was/is probably the most popular S&W revolver gunsmith in Canada.

http: //mdcharlton.ca/

http: //mdcharlton.ca/contact-us
 
That looks like one of Murray Carlton's race guns. I've seen a couple of them before. There should be a name stamped into the side of the custom barrel "Charlton Custom Guns"

Most of the ones I've seen, have a docked hammer spur and are double action only. That means they won't #### for single action shooting and require a full pull of the trigger to put the hammer through a full cycle to ignite the primer.

The hammer springs in those pistols is usually very light. This allows for a very smooth and fluid trigger pull, without much deflection of the sights.

Those are usually in 38 special but I have seen one in 357 magnum that was built on a model 19 frame.

Your pistol looks to be a model 10 or something similar. Maybe as mentioned, a 686??? That would be a special order though. A few years back, a lot of those frames were offered as surplus when many of the US police forces converted to 9mm and 40 cal.

I saw an ad in Florida once from Cranston's Custom Guns claiming they were using ex RCMP frames as a basis for their offerings. Your guess is as good as mine and I never saw one so I don't know. Word is that the RCMP pistols were taken in partial trade when they went to their present models.
 
Murray Charlton Enterprises on Vancouver Island. Is the gun Stainless? If it is and it is 357 then most likely 686, if it is .38 and stainless then most likely a 64. 357 in blue is a 581 or 586. Blue 38 is most likely a 10, 14, or 15. I've seen quite a few MC guns but never one with a slab sided barrel. I've only seen round ones, always stamped with Murrays name. The gun reminds me of a "Bill Davis" out of the states. If you PM me the model number off the crane and all but the last two digits of the serial number, I'll look it up the Standard Catalog of S&W.

I turned down a MC 686 in superb condition for 650 this year. I have 3 PPC guns now, two 14's and a 10. I've never paid more than 550 including some extras , belt and holster or speedloaders etc. if a decent pedigree can be established, and the condition and function are excellent then 650 might be a good ballpark number.
 
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That's a "light" barrel PPC gun - mine has an almost identical barrel profile. If it's stainless it's almost certainly NOT the gun that goes with that manual - the manual is an N frame manual and the gun appears to be a K frame. It could have been a Model 64 if it's chambered in 357 - but I doubt that it still is, because the recoil is hell on a good trigger job. My gun is an early one of Murray's, that was done for a competitor who was a friend of his - it's also unmarked. He also used the trade name 'Spike Block Special'. I've never seen a gun like this that wouldn't shoot amazingly well.
 
The model number will still be on the frame inside the crane, just swing out the cylinder and look. The barrel set up is the normal one for a late 20th century PPC "individual" pistol. It should only be fired with light target loads. Lots of smiths and amateur gun builders constructed hundreds during the heigh day of PPC competition.

Dr Jim
 
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