OP - you might find this of some use:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...f-PGW-s-Folding-Stock-Aluminum-Chassis-Coyote
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...f-PGW-s-Folding-Stock-Aluminum-Chassis-Coyote
TRG22 vs PGW Coyote
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For the price why wouldn't you look at a true custom rifle? They're both great rifles, without a doubt, but $4800 will buy you a lot from a custom shop like ATRS.
I think the OP is on the right track. Customs are fine but at the end of the day they're and unknown quantity until proven otherwise at the bench. The TRG and Coyote are proven systems that will also appeal to a broad market should you ever have to sell. The custom is exactly what the guy who spec'd the build wants not necessrily what anyone else wants.
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I don't know how you can say an unknown quantity? We guarantee every rifle we build to shoot no worse than 1/2 MOA and typically much better is the result. Not that long ago the Coyote was a complete unknown, as was the timberwolf. We have been manufacturing our own actions for several years now so are not exactly an unknown. Believe me if there was ANY sort of issue with the rifles we build it would be all over the net as that is just a fact of life today. I have yet to see any of our rifles linger in the EE for any amount of time.
The advantage of a custom is that you have FAR more options is so far as stock , action configuration, caliber, barrel length and contour as well as trigger and mag system.
The TRG in my eyes, is ###ier looking then the coyote. However, I do like the Folding stock Coyote. I have emailed them however because its a Saturday I'm sure I won't hear from them for acouple of days. Therefore talking to you guys about will kill the wait. Since my wife doesn't exactly have an input about it..... Actually not true. Because i'm bored i'll fill everyone in on what her opinion is.
Over lunch I had mentioned the idea of the Coyote. Her first reaction was "Nope, don't like the name of it" (of course she was kidding) she then told me that for the last 4 years that she has known me. My dream rifle has been a TRG, and even more so once a close friend had bought one. (at the time he was also a room mate so the rifle was oh so close to me) I am not a rich man by all means. I received some cash and with it I paid of most of my debt. And with some of the remainder I realized 'Hey,I can finally buy my dream rifle. (Currently shooting a Tikka Master Sporter with a Leupold Mark 4 lt/r) And the wifey knowing i've been wanting this rifle has no issue with me getting one since I'll probably not be able to afford one anytime soon.
So after a week or two of extensive research on the TRG. prices for what i'd like with it and customer service, etc etc. I've come across comparisons of that to the TRG. A lot of reviews were compared to the Accuracy International Rifles. After finding out those cost roughly $8000, I decided back to the TRG.
It was yesterday that I had been suggested the PGW Coyote. Being in the military and having a couple of friends that are snipers i asked some of them knowing they have had more then enough rounds down range with its bigger brother (Timberwolf) to give me a run down of it.
So now i mention this rifle to the wifey and shes kinda annoyed because she had no issue with my purchasing my dream rifle. And now i'm considering another rifle. So she claims now it just seems to be about getting a new $5000 rifle. So as I sit here debating and reading up on articles and reviews. I figured I'd explain my story. English was not my best subject and my story telling is even worse. So forgive me if this post is all over the place.
now back to reading reviews
Over lunch I had mentioned the idea of the Coyote. Her first reaction was "Nope, don't like the name of it" (of course she was kidding) she then told me that for the last 4 years that she has known me. My dream rifle has been a TRG, and even more so once a close friend had bought one. (at the time he was also a room mate so the rifle was oh so close to me) I am not a rich man by all means. I received some cash and with it I paid of most of my debt. And with some of the remainder I realized 'Hey,I can finally buy my dream rifle. (Currently shooting a Tikka Master Sporter with a Leupold Mark 4 lt/r) And the wifey knowing i've been wanting this rifle has no issue with me getting one since I'll probably not be able to afford one anytime soon.
So after a week or two of extensive research on the TRG. prices for what i'd like with it and customer service, etc etc. I've come across comparisons of that to the TRG. A lot of reviews were compared to the Accuracy International Rifles. After finding out those cost roughly $8000, I decided back to the TRG.
It was yesterday that I had been suggested the PGW Coyote. Being in the military and having a couple of friends that are snipers i asked some of them knowing they have had more then enough rounds down range with its bigger brother (Timberwolf) to give me a run down of it.
So now i mention this rifle to the wifey and shes kinda annoyed because she had no issue with my purchasing my dream rifle. And now i'm considering another rifle. So she claims now it just seems to be about getting a new $5000 rifle. So as I sit here debating and reading up on articles and reviews. I figured I'd explain my story. English was not my best subject and my story telling is even worse. So forgive me if this post is all over the place.
now back to reading reviewshey ATR, checking out your website now.
On another note. I've also been considering buying used but you don't find too many of these rifles up for sale. I don't normally buy used however I feel if someone spent$5000 on a rifle or such. They probably maintained it.
On another note. I've also been considering buying used but you don't find too many of these rifles up for sale. I don't normally buy used however I feel if someone spent$5000 on a rifle or such. They probably maintained it.
That's not sure. Some people who spend that kinda money have a #### load and these items become disposable....
Was not refering to your rifles specifically it was a generalization. I've owned customs built by well regarded smiths that shot very well eventually after much tuning, however my TRG's shoot well with everything and amazing with tuned handloads. With a TRG you know you are getting a rifle that will meet or exceed your accuracy expectations, with a custom you are getting a collection of individually marketed parts that will shoot as well as the care taken in assembling them.
As for the underlined quote above you should know very well that what a contributing sponsor to this site does not want to remain in print for others to witness can easily be removed by said contributing sponsor. So lets not pretend that there is transparency here on CGN.
exactly my thoughts, I have a few friends who are in to the custom builds and having rifles built from parts, they always seem to be changing things and having to sell for peanuts or just let it sit in the safe. It has nothing to do with the quality of the parts or the person who built it, to get top dollar you need to find someone who dreams of that exact build just like you did, but then what do you tell him your reason for selling it is?
I find people don't sell "dream" rifles unless they find out it does not work the way they had dreamed it to.
As far as AI goes the base model non-folding AW is $5800. 8k is with every bell and whistle factored in. That said AINA announced on Snipers Hide that all current versions of AI models are now discontinued. This includes the AE, AW and now even the AX.
2014 will see a whole new lineup from AI to be unveiled at the upcoming shot show. All past models will continue to be supported with parts and service so no worries there.
If you have interest in them you will have to wait a month to see what's coming. There are great deals on AI's stateside right now as the dealers clear out the AW's and AX's but for us that would mean importing which adds to the cost.
Edit: If you can get the TRG for 3700 go for it, that is a decent price.
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