The AR is a completely different design, it is a much better design for accuracy, the direct impingement (internal piston) system interferes with the barrel harmonics very little, this is why the DI AR is typically more accurate than a piston rifle (external piston) and why the AR is hard to beat when it comes to accuracy compared to other battle rifles.
New Tavor Trigger from Timney
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The AR is a completely different design, it is a much better design for accuracy, the direct impingement (internal piston) system interferes with the barrel harmonics very little, this is why the DI AR is typically more accurate than a piston rifle (external piston) and why the AR is hard to beat when it comes to accuracy compared to other battle rifles.
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I dunno boys. When I got into the game 100 years ago the AR15 was more a curio than anything else. Try to imagine a time when only Colt supplied them and they were grossly over priced. We were all stunned when Colt came out with the AR15 A2 HBAR National Match back in the 80's. I'll bet that thing cost as much as the Tavor does today - you sure didn't see many of AR's around in those days. All I can say is that if you don't bench rest your gun, and you feed it crappy ammo - the AR will shoot like dirt and produce crappy groups too.
I am amazed at the similarities between the AR and Tavor in some ways. It is starting off just like the AR did in the gun market. And now, the aftermarket guys are taking notice. My guess is that if the Timney guys get that trigger cleaned up AND a heavy barrel version comes out - this thing will start hassling the AR for the market.
I am amazed at the similarities between the AR and Tavor in some ways. It is starting off just like the AR did in the gun market. And now, the aftermarket guys are taking notice. My guess is that if the Timney guys get that trigger cleaned up AND a heavy barrel version comes out - this thing will start hassling the AR for the market.
A quality Colt Hbar National Match is still expensive but just like all AR brands, you get what you pay for (for the most part) It isn't just the brand name that is driving up the price. Things like better triggers, better handguards, better barrels, better coatings, and better QC and a real warranty all cost more.
If you don't bench rest your rifle you are only showcasing your shooting ability and not the ability of the rifle.
If you feed it crap you are just wasting barrel life if you want anything other than to hear it go bang.
I think the Tavor is actually having less problems than the AR did when it came out. The firearms world has learned a lot since the 60's and since the Tavor wasn't immediately adopted as the primary battle rifle of one of the largest armed forces in the world it has had a little time to address early issues without the whole world hearing about it and having all the bad reports and poor performance in battle.
If we could get it for a better price I think it would give the AR a run for the black rifle market in Canada. The non restricted status is the Tavor's strongest selling point right now. It's a quality built rifle that is non restricted and other than the poor accuracy reports there haven't been many complaints about problems with it.
If we could fight and win to have the AR taken off the restricted list then I think things would swing back to the AR's favor though. The AR is hard to beat when you look at the modularity and the aftermarket support for it, then throw in the FACT that with a decent barrel and ammunition any AR can be made into an accurate rifle.
