Restricted Rifle Storage

I have the same question on the fuzzyness of the law. I'm in the market for a JR Carbine in 9mm, which is non-restricted. I bought the Ukranian Tire 8 gun cabinet - its pretty robust, but anything can be broken into if the thief has the resolve to do it. I've anchored it into the wood studs of a closet with 3 inch lag bolts and into the floor as well, and its now "hidden" behind a fake gyproc panel so the typical kid who breaks in to the house would not see this. However, according to the law, I can leave the rifle locked in the cabinet with NO TRIGGER LOCK as it is unrestricted. But, what do I do with the ammo? Locked box in the locker? Locked box outside the locker? Unlocked in my side table drawer? One clerk at the CFC told me the ammo should be stored separate from the gun, and she said I could keep loaded mags in my side table drawer, unlocked, as long as the gun is locked up. Does anyone out there actually know the law? even the local cops don't know.
 
That cabinet - assuming it locks into the frame, ie the locking bolts project into the sides, or top and bottom (this was one of the judges notes in the Barnes Judgment) is a safe under the Act. Ammunition can be stored with or beside the gun inside a safe designed for the storage of firearms. The storage laws were NOT intended to prevent the theft of firearms - believe it or not, that wouldn't have flown with the majority 30 years ago - they were intended to prevent unauthorized access, kids getting a hold of guns etc. Apart from storing ammunition that is not stored in a safe "separately" there is no requirement to lock up ammunition. Technically, there is no such charge as unsafe storage of ammunition, but people get charged with it.
 
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Quoted from the RCMP website "Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearms"

So basically keep it where you want, in the cabinet with your gun, in the closet in an ammo can or in your drawer.
 
Yes, it locks with 2 vertical metal bars that insert into the top and bottom frames with an internal key lock.

Thanks for the clarification. Happy new year.
 
Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a good case to take from home to the range for my restricted rifle. After looking around I found the below case that would be perfect both keeping it stored in the safe as well as transporting to the range. Just wondering if someone could confirm that the below would be acceptable for transport or if I need to transport in a hard case only?

Soft Case:http://www.amazon.ca/Bulldog-Cases-Standard-Tactical-35-Inch/dp/B00ANIJFGO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388724421&sr=8-1&keywords=bulldog+tactical

Thanks T
 
tpirovol said:
Hi Everyone,

I am looking for a good case to take from home to the range for my restricted rifle. After looking around I found the below case that would be perfect both keeping it stored in the safe as well as transporting to the range. Just wondering if someone could confirm that the below would be acceptable for transport or if I need to transport in a hard case only?

Soft Case:http://www.amazon.ca/Bulldog-Cases-Standard-Tactical-35-Inch/dp/B00ANIJFGO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388724421&sr=8-1&keywords=bulldog+tactical

Thanks T
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Soft cases are perfectly legal for safe transports, so long as the zipper locks. Only problem for you is going by the picture there's no way to tell if the zipper is lockable in some way, hate to see you order the bag and find out there's no way to lock the zipper.
 
09outlander said:
Soft cases are perfectly legal for safe transports, so long as the zipper locks. Only problem for you is going by the picture there's no way to tell if the zipper is lockable in some way, hate to see you order the bag and find out there's no way to lock the zipper.
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I got a case from Cabelas that didn't have a locking zipper when I got it. I was not a happy camper. I took off the original zipper pulls and put in heavy split rings that cannot be removed without tools. I make a habit of locking any of my bags that I use for guns or ammo.
 
If you have to ask, it's probably best to email the RCMP. The nature of Canadian law pretty much requires that you have an OK from them for your personal setup to absolve you in the event that they get squirrelly on you.
 
Cowboy7 said:
If you have to ask, it's probably best to email the RCMP. The nature of Canadian law pretty much requires that you have an OK from them for your personal setup to absolve you in the event that they get squirrelly on you.
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What are you talking about not only do you not require anyone's OK, the RCMP can not and will not tell you what you are doing is within the law. All they will do is point you to the fact sheets or the justice site.

Shawn
 
Worst thing you can do is ask the RCMP/CFC/CFO, they will either not give you any information or they will give you the wrong information.
 
I called last week and the guy on the phone told me that since a knife can cut through the fabric it is not considered enough.

Thanks T
 
shawn said:
What are you talking about not only do you not require anyone's OK, the RCMP can not and will not tell you what you are doing is within the law. All they will do is point you to the fact sheets or the justice site.

Shawn
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Sometimes they don't even do that. They go I don't know you figure it out :p

Very rarely will the answer the question and they always say well unofficially yes you can do that but I can't tell you that because I'm not allowed to.
 
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