M305 receiver doesn't say Norinco on it anywhere

Yup. The only legal requirement on firearms is a serial number. Everything else is a consumer consideration. One thing about Chinese civilian production guns is they are built on contracts, and the buyer decides what features to put on. Everything costs money. In the nearly 20yrs of imported Chinese M14's, the variations range from USGI-like parts with negligible civilianization, shiney bright bluing, engraved Norinco "Star Trek" logos, scope base no scope base, four types of stock, welded flash suppressors, solid slots, etc etc.
 
I happen to like the Star Trek symbol! Lol figure if I press on it, maybe Enterprise will beam me up!
 
I thought with bill C19 it says you need no serial number at all and removing it or having a firearm with no serial number is ok.


We still haven't signed the UN marking treaty.
 
Doesn't this make it possible for unsavory types to sell their rifles as an M1A and possible screw someone out of 1500$?
 
haha49 said:
I thought with bill C19 it says you need no serial number at all and removing it or having a firearm with no serial number is ok.

We still haven't signed the UN marking treaty.
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The serial number is a Criminal Code requirement. Has been for decades. The UN marking business was to add a country code to the serial number. When every step in the production run costs money, pulling a block aside for another step adds to the overall cost of things. Think about the last time you did a home-style production run of anything being done sequentially. If you realized something should be sanded or a screw turned, then put those steps into context when a thousand guns have to be treated differently if the plant is pushing through ten thousand. Ten percent might not seem difficult, but that means no mixing in or replacements if QA/QC finds flaws. No adding to the order if the market looks better than when the run was started. No cancellations if things go sour either.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
The serial number is a Criminal Code requirement. Has been for decades. The UN marking business was to add a country code to the serial number. When every step in the production run costs money, pulling a block aside for another step adds to the overall cost of things. Think about the last time you did a home-style production run of anything being done sequentially. If you realized something should be sanded or a screw turned, then put those steps into context when a thousand guns have to be treated differently if the plant is pushing through ten thousand. Ten percent might not seem difficult, but that means no mixing in or replacements if QA/QC finds flaws. No adding to the order if the market looks better than when the run was started. No cancellations if things go sour either.
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Uh oh better hide my Cooey before the UN gets it!
 
1leggeddog said:
Doesn't this make it possible for unsavory types to sell their rifles as an M1A and possible screw someone out of 1500$?
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Not likely....fit and finish is much different, plus the M1A will say Springfield Armory on the heel....someone would have to be pretty dumb to mistake the 2.
 
Yeah but not everyone knows all these things. And if there is nothing written i imagine someone could engrave it to fake it :/
 
1leggeddog said:
Yeah but not everyone knows all these things. And if there is nothing written i imagine someone could engrave it to fake it :/
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If someone doesn't do their research before parting with $1500 then they deserve to get ripped off :)
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I wouldn't put any money on it, but I believe 'M305' is trade marked. Nothing to worry about though.
The UN Small Arms treaty has nothing to do with it. And as I recall, removing or altering a S/N is a criminal offence. Not having one from the factory is not though. Wasn't required, Stateside, where most of our really daft laws originated, until 1968.
 
Norinco is the ACME of China, they manufacture their products based on request, who imported this batch they probably just requested no receiver branding
 
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