How much does classification affect your choices?

This thread clearly shows the reality on how fragmented we are as gun owners.

Sad.

I personally like my guns compact, concealable, modular and light, And this is why they hate us for having such effective tools, while many here have failed to see this very reality.

If you own a PAL, you are already on their list.
 
Leibermuster said:
What hassle though is there really?

Besides being a range gun that is it! What an extra trigger lock to much for you, do you shoot at a range ever? If you don't I see your point.
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The cost of range membership is a big one in some areas, like Winnipeg. $500 up front to join an indoor range.
We all know the intent of the law is to make the sport cumbersome for law-abiding gun owners.
 
Should my ar be taken away in the future, there is no way I will speak up against any attempts to do the same with the vz58 type rifles because I don't like those :stirthepot2:

Just as long as I can keep my bolt action .308 nobody needs military style guns chambered in military calibers :stirthepot2:

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I've got both restricted and non. My restricted guns get out less than 5 times per year. NR's get out way more often and for much longer.
 
How has classification affects my choices, well, my first center fire rifle was a AKS84 when they were non-restricted ,then they restricted them so I had to get an RPAL and join a club/range if I want to shoot it, which I did, no big thing as you said ,95% of my shooting is at a range too ,then they prohib the damn thing so I couldn't show it in the light of day ,if they had of just left it non-restricted it could of possibly been the only auto loading rifle I would of own.

But now, because of that , I have 5 ARs and a half dozen handguns , since I had to get the paper work anyway.lol
Bottom line, if there's something you want that's restricted, and you want it bad enough, like most gunnutz do, you'll do what you have to do for it.
 
Restricted vs non restricted doesn't matter much to me. For rifles/shotguns I prefer NR so I can take them out and shoot anywhere, but it's not a deal breaker. I love my AR. And I'll probably get another AR. I really enjoy my handguns too.
To me the "restricted" class is the liberal's way of discouraging me from owning guns THEY don't like. Well f*&#k them. If I want a gun, I'll buy it, restricted or not. Their "restricted" class doesn't scare me. When I got the little letter from the RCMP saying my address has been flagged or whatever for the number of firearms in the house, I laughed heartily.
It saddens me to see people paranoid about owning restricted guns. You have a PAL, they know where you live, they know you have guns. What difference does it make..
 
twyeh said:
This thread clearly shows the reality on how fragmented we are as gun owners.

If you own a PAL, you are already on their list.
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True. They have no love for you and if you think you are shielded by having a 'mere' bolt action rifle remember Cukes complained that YOUR firearms are unregulated without the gun registry. Get on board.
 
Classification doesn't affect me one bit, if I like a gun I buy it...except prohib of course. I'll never stop buying restricted guns, I'll never let them win.
 
I used to live in a small, rural city, and shot almost exclusively in the woods - classification was a huge factor for me at that time, and most of my guns were non-restricted. I now live in the 'big city', and as it's actually easier and closer for me to go to the range than to head into the bush, I own mostly short-barrelled, compact restricted guns. That being said, the fact that they ARE restricted and thus registered bothers me, as the next liberal government is probably gonna come looking for them....

I still buy what I like, though. And what I like is usually restricted.
 
I kinda regret buying my m&p40 (my only restricted) Think I've shot it 3 times maybe. With the cost of the carry kits and range fees for the year, I coulda got 2 more guns I wants but oh well.

At least I can say I have a handgun and fondle it at home. I still do want an ar but my xcr will do for now
 
Just an additional clarification on my post given some of the comments on this page, I focused primarily on rifles (given this is a rifles sub forum), pointing out that while I am prioritizing NR rifles because of classification, I still own a number of handguns from .22WMR to 500S&W. Someday I hope to be able to hunt with that 500... someday... :)
 
I find NR gets way more use because I also hunt, It has to be something very unique/must have to have me buy more restricteds and an AR just doesn't cut the mustard for me.

Like right now I am contemplating a 338 Lapua semi, there is already a restricted available, but I am hoping/waiting for the Alexander Arms Ulfberht as it should be NR as it is not AR based.
 
I don't have any restricteds, because for the amount I shoot I can't justify the cost of a range membership I'll barely ever use. That'll hopefully change when I graduate from university however.
 
Classification affects me greatly. The more they are controversial, regulated and/or restricted, the more I buy them. During C19 Committee hearings, just because ndp Jack Harris declared the NR Dominion Arms "outlaw" shotgun a bad scary gun, I bought one of them too. He actually lied they were "sawed off". If I could buy prohibs. I would buy lots of them as well. I save, then I buy! So far, so good.

Do not let the hurdles, hoops, so called hassles, ATT's etc... allow you to give in. Even after they leave my home, when they come for your NR single shots and bolts, I will be there for you!

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cr5 said:
For everyone that posted saying they won't get a restricted firearm because it's a pain in the butt going through all the hassles for the license and the ATT you are what's wrong with the firearms community in Canada and you are why we are going to lose the battle against the anti's.

I make one phone call once every few years to renew my ATT, I make a phone call to register or transfer a restricted firearm. It is more of a pain in the ass to go to Tim Hortons to buy a cup of coffee than it is to deal with a restricted firearm.
It costs a little more and takes a little more time when you are getting your license but it is worth it to add to the numbers of RPAL holders in this country. The next anti firearms government that gets into power will have a much harder time trying to take away our rights if they look at the numbers and see a large number of voters are also RPAL holders.
I maintain a membership at a gun range because it is the best place to shoot around the city and is the best facility for sighting in rifles and doing load development. It also supports the firearms community in the area.
If you say they are too expensive for something you can only use at a range then go buy a Norinco for a couple hundred dollars and be another voter they can see being pissed off if they try to take away our rights.

Having an RPAL isn't going to put you on some magic list in the hands of the government to target for home inspections and gun grabs. We still have some rights here in Canada but not if we don't stand together and fight for them.
Avoiding restricted firearms only gives the anti's more power. If we don't all stand together they will start by taking away the restricted firearms then once they get away with that they will move on to the rest of the semi auto's then to magazine fed bolt actions, then on to lever actions, then to single shots then to slingshots.
We must fight this by showing them that a large population of voters are also firearms owners.
We should also all support groups like the NFA and CSSA. If you won't fight then at least pay someone else to fight for you.
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Well said cr5, managing ownership of firearms is quite easy when you know the process. I have never understood why anyone settles for a PAL when for just a little more effort they can have an RPAL. I know many will say they just want to be able to hunt and buy non restricted firearms. Fact is if your a member here you have a strong interest in seeing your ability to enjoy your shooting interests continue without further restriction.

The Liberals whenever they manage to convince enough sheepel to vote them back into power will be coming for our restricted firearms. They will also go after non-restricted they believe you have no right to own, LAR mag's, Beuwulf mag's and anything else the bleedhearts deem a threat to their rainbow world.

Don't wait until their proposed laws to further restrict our shooting sports are ready to be signed into law. Get your RPAL status, joint the NFA, and get up and stand determined to do whatever it takes to fight off the delusional anti firearms movement.
 
Well.....I will buy anything I really like,.Restricted or not. PLUS , I will buy any gun that has a chance at going "prohib"!! . I use to own all sorts of pistols, revolvers, and semi auto rifles that ALL became prohib.....the gov said "were gonna take these away...and foolishly I did what alot of others did..I SOLD THEM ALL..arrgg !! Folks, dont let them fool you, they are NOT comming for your guns no matter how Nasty they look. And if they do make them prohibited.....GREAT, now you are part of the Eleet Prohib class and you can now buy what alot of other people can only drewl over.
 
lone ranger said:
Well.....I will buy anything I really like,.Restricted or not. PLUS , I will buy any gun that has a chance at going "prohib"!! . I use to own all sorts of pistols, revolvers, and semi auto rifles that ALL became prohib.....the gov said "were gonna take these away...and foolishly I did what alot of others did..I SOLD THEM ALL..arrgg !! Folks, dont let them fool you, they are NOT comming for your guns no matter how Nasty they look. And if they do make them prohibited.....GREAT, now you are part of the Eleet Prohib class and you can now buy what alot of other people can only drewl over.
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The only problem with that is the fact I don't want a rifle or pistol I can't shoot. I don't want a nice conversation piece sitting in my gun safe that can never leave my home. I don't want to be given a prohib license, I want all firearms declassified and simply say that if you are deemed responsible enough to own a single shot 22LR you are also responsible enough to own an AR-15 or a short barreled handgun and you can use those anywhere as long as you do it responsibly and within the law. Every firearm can be dangerous in the wrong hands but no firearm is dangerous in the hands of a responsible law abiding person. Full auto has been prohibited for years yet criminals still get them so taking away the rights of the law abiding does nothing to keep things out of the hands of criminals.
 
When I first got my PAL/RPAL , it took about 5 years until I got my first restricted, and it was my 12th gun (Handgun). If it werent for classification, I woul have owned 5 "Restricted" Guns first :D Now that I really got into shooting my handgun, I go to the range all the time, and looking into a Daniel Defense AR for a second range toy. I originally never planned on getting any restricteds, just had a lot of fun guns for camping and fishing, then I saw and felt a pistol that spoke to me so I bought it.

All that said, I have no regrets in waiting so long to get a restricted gun, the system MASSIVELY affected what I got first, more due to the fact I didnt want to be forced to shoot at a range. After a while, the joy of bringing my friends out to the bush and letting them shoot a bunch of my ammo totally wore off, now I love going to the range by myself for hours at a time and getting into a total zone.

So, I became a range shooter over time, as said, now I am getting an AR to have something else fun to bring to the range with my handgun, I also want to get into CQB matches and such as well. Most non restricted Semi autos kind of blow lol. I got my SKS's and M305's, maybe get a T97 next, on the fence about it though.

I should also mention, I am not sure if I would ever have bothered to even think about getting an AR or the T97 if STANAG pistol mags did not exist.
 
lone ranger said:
Well.....I will buy anything I really like,.Restricted or not. PLUS , I will buy any gun that has a chance at going "prohib"!! . I use to own all sorts of pistols, revolvers, and semi auto rifles that ALL became prohib.....the gov said "were gonna take these away...and foolishly I did what alot of others did..I SOLD THEM ALL..arrgg !! Folks, dont let them fool you, they are NOT comming for your guns no matter how Nasty they look. And if they do make them prohibited.....GREAT, now you are part of the Eleet Prohib class and you can now buy what alot of other people can only drewl over.
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Sadly it does not work like that anymore, I dunno EXACTLY how the system works but from my understanding, you would pretty much only get one of the 6 prhib licenses. Example: They make the CZ 858 prohib, they either make a NEW 12x like 12 (7) Or you get into the 12 (3) category, converted autos, at which point, you will ONLY be allowed to own converted autos (No handguns, or full autos, or any other fun stuff)

The rest of the classes you will never get into, because you cannot legally buy any gun that is too short, or fully auto.

The government doesnt want anymore people having a prohib license, the days of getting one because you own a certain gun are pretty much over. You can pretty much only be grandfathered into it by inheritance. Also, there are massive restrictions on shooting them too, someone with a 12x would have to chime in here , because I know nothing of this, but the one person I knew that had one, stopped renewing it because it was to much trouble, and no fun. (Most of the guns he owned were ok'd for an ATT for: Maintenance / relocation / gun shows only)
 
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