New air rifle for the kids? What's hot and what's not?

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I want to buy an air rifle to teach the kid how to shoot and basic safety.

What do you think is the best product today? I don't need something over 495 fps. Just a good air rifle that'll put her shots where the sights is aligned.

Thanks,

Luc
 
Get a good quality Diana or CZ. They will pass it on to their kids. The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of a cheap price is gone...
 
The Baikal MP-61 is nice for kids. Kool looking, light, adjustable stock and trigger, multi-shot and accurate. You can scope it easily enough. Spring gun so no need to buy CO2. You can get some, sometimes, at Princess Auto, if not, a few of the big air-gun dealers (D&L etc) can get them.
Denis
 
Problem I run into with break actions and my kids & their friends; and what I remember from my own youth; is that even the weaker spring guns require too much effort. Pumps & springers can lead to boredom quickly. The Daisy Red Ryder was too much cocking force for my daughter to do & still enjoy it. Kids really don't stay too enthused about MOA accuracy either - they want the pop cans to dance around.

As they get older it gets easier for them to work these different actions, but I see some 12 year olds (active, athletic kids here) even having trouble with the springers - sure they can get the thing cocked, but it wears them out & they lose interest.

CO2 can be a pain, but I far prefer it with kids as the action keeps going, even with a single shot. The kids far more enjoy my old MK2; or some other CO2 BB guns I have. I would personally pick up the Crosman 2240 or (for a rifle) the 1077.

Only my 0.02 but it comes from a lot of mucking around with different BB/pellet actions, and the kids.
 
Problem I run into with break actions and my kids & their friends; and what I remember from my own youth; is that even the weaker spring guns require too much effort. Pumps & springers can lead to boredom quickly. The Daisy Red Ryder was too much cocking force for my daughter to do & still enjoy it. Kids really don't stay too enthused about MOA accuracy either - they want the pop cans to dance around.

As they get older it gets easier for them to work these different actions, but I see some 12 year olds (active, athletic kids here) even having trouble with the springers - sure they can get the thing cocked, but it wears them out & they lose interest.

CO2 can be a pain, but I far prefer it with kids as the action keeps going, even with a single shot. The kids far more enjoy my old MK2; or some other CO2 BB guns I have. I would personally pick up the Crosman 2240 or (for a rifle) the 1077.

Only my 0.02 but it comes from a lot of mucking around with different BB/pellet actions, and the kids.

I too remember being a kid and fighting to #### the break actions. To me, that is the barrier to entry that must be overcome. It's kind of like a "man card" initiation. This is what I, as a father, appreciated about the break action. I could control their use by being involved to load while kids were still a little young.
 
I use Daisy Red Ryders for my kids. They are ergonomic for their smaller bodies, cheap to buy (especially when TSC has them on sale), and work well. My oldest still prefers to shoot it more than any of the other air guns I have. If you are looking for an air pistol, I recommend the Winchester Model 11 (1911 A1). Same feel, weight as the real steel and recoils like a .22. Remember, firearm safety doesn't need to cost an arm and a leg. Make the shooting sports fun and safe, and they will have a blast. Just remember to wear eye protection with bb guns, ricochets suck.
 
I recently bought a Ruger explorer youth model and that thing is deadly accurate! It's unreal. Plinking pop cans off the side deck at 30m im hitting them 10/10 all day long with the tru-glo sights. The thing seems to never miss what i aim at, it's weird. Cost me less than $100 at WSS and shoots easily as nice as a friends Diana and a little more accurate even.

Btw, it's a real easy springer to ####, fully adjustable rear sight, short LOP, kid sized grip, and fun for dad too!

Looks like this;

 
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How old is your girl, and how big is she for her age?

Then decide if she is going to be able to repeatedly #### a break barrel air gun, keeping in mind that we are NOT discussing a Magnum-class, adult-size springer here.

Take a look at the Slavia 631 and if you are not too prone to getting all cheap, the smaller Diana models.

Here's the breakdown as I saw it as a kid. A spring gun was the best choice. #### it once per shot, only cost to operate was ammo, few seals to go wrong. They recoiled a bit. Almost like a firearm! :) A pneumatic gun was almost as good, with it being more work, but still, the only cost out of pocket, being pellets. You end up tired of pumping up yer Crosman 760 in a hurry though. Four pumps is good for plinking. No recoil.

CO2 was dead last,lots of fun while the money lasted, easy, no work at all, but every shot cost twice as much, and about half the shot were unreliable because of the way CO2 eventually runs out...Not so good.

Take a good look at the Diana or Wierauch (spelling?) spring guns in the 'kid' sizes. They are not so powerful as to cause a lot of issues with strength requirements. Cheap to shoot, and well made.
Take a good look at the single stroke pneumatic Daisy target guns. The Cadets use them in their marksmanship program, and depending on exactly which version you buy, you can get adjustable stock lengths and pretty good accuracy with pretty much zero recoil. The technique for compressing the air is easily learned.

D&L Airguns have these and others on their site.

Cheers
Trev
 
Some of the Chinese springers are a great deal, my first air guns were a pioneer break barrel pistol and a pioneer break barrel rifle. They were inexpensive, pretty accurate, and at 10 yrs old I had no difficulty cocking them. I killed my first grouse with the pioneer rifle with a head shot at nearly 30 yards, not bad for a $40 gun
 
Winchester 500X from Walmart. It's really made by hatsan. And can be beefed up down the road. $140 seems to me. TSC sells them too sometime.
 
I too subscribe to the philosophy that for kids it just needs to go bang and make targets dance. I am more concerned about teaching muzzle control and fingers off the trigger than accuracy.

I bought my boys air soft guns for now until they are strong enough #### and control a real air gun.

Very cheap, fun and ricochets do not damage things in the basement.
 
If I where you I would stay away from CO2 pellet guns, because they never last long, and they always end up leaking. Go with the pump or break action guns, there more reliable.
 
If I where you I would stay away from CO2 pellet guns, because they never last long, and they always end up leaking. Go with the pump or break action guns, there more reliable.

It's true they leak, but with proper maintenance, that is years away. A tiny bit of Pellgunoil (or even ATF) goes a long way to keeping them shooting.

And when they start to leak, I just re-seal them. I've lost count over the number of Crosman 357 & MK 1 & 2 seals I've replaced since the 80's. But it takes no time or real money at all, once you have a couple seals around. And in the short term, other O-rings can usually be made to work if you can't find the right ones (not so much on the 357 but you sure can on other models).

Just stating that, so the OP doesn't get scared away from CO2. To each their own, but it really ain't that bad. ;)

YM (will) Vary

Good luck & happy shooting with whatever ya go with.
 
It's true they leak, but with proper maintenance, that is years away. A tiny bit of Pellgunoil (or even ATF) goes a long way to keeping them shooting.

And when they start to leak, I just re-seal them. I've lost count over the number of Crosman 357 & MK 1 & 2 seals I've replaced since the 80's. But it takes no time or real money at all, once you have a couple seals around. And in the short term, other O-rings can usually be made to work if you can't find the right ones (not so much on the 357 but you sure can on other models).

Just stating that, so the OP doesn't get scared away from CO2. To each their own, but it really ain't that bad. ;)

YM (will) Vary

Good luck & happy shooting with whatever ya go with.

Agreed wholeheartedly, also co2 can be very cheap if you convert the gun to use a bulk fill system from a paintball tank. a $3 fill can give enough gas for over 500 shots with less velocity loss as the cartridge drains.
 
I was playing with the ruger at work this morning. Indoor 15m range, shooting off a work table I was amazed what it could do.

Here is my "bench".



The left was sighting in because I got playing with the sights a while ago. Far right target was the first shot for groups, then the centre, five shots in each.



Not bad at all for a $90 air rifle, infact I'm highly impressed with this thing.

The only issue for me is the grip is pretty small, so I have to use a 2 finger grip instead of 3.
Not bad though...

 
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