Getting pulled over while transporting a restricted firearm

I've been pulled over and asked is there anyfirearms in the car only once.

That was after he handed me a ticket then asked can I search the trunk I said no. He asked why not I said well then I have to get out unlock the trunk with a key then debate with you why the firearm is legal and a certain classification and I rather not. I said if you make this ticket go away I will let you search. He said no I went damit still got the speeding ticket... Was worth a shot not like I cared to much it was all legal...
 
DJdeadlyDALEK said:
I was pulled over once for doing twenty over while transporting my restricted in the trunk. Officer never asked anything about firearms. Just gave me a speeding ticket
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When I'm transporting firearms I go out of my my to make sure my driving is close to legal to minimize the chance of having an interaction with the RC's. I say, "close to legal" because if I drove in complete compliance I would stand out like a sore thumb for holding up traffic!
 
762, I was going to ask "Are all GunNutz such lousy drivers they can't make it to the range and back without getting a traffic ticket.?" Try not to pass everything in sight, stop at red lights and stop signs, leave your texting at home, and I can't imagine worrying about being stopped and asked to open my gun case!! And, since I legally carry restricted locked in a separate compartment of my vehicle, not visible to an officer writing a ticket, I have no reason to expect he would ever ask about guns anyway. They are not physic, you know!
 
I've been stopped a few times by RIDEs while heading home from the range. They don't ask, and I don't tell: I have done nothing wrong, and they don't suspect that I have other than wanting to verify my sobriety behind the wheel. "Anything to drink, sir?"--"No, sir/ma'am." And I'm on way within a minute or two. I think people get a little too worked up by such things. I've even been stopped for a RIDE after field dressing a deer, with blood up to my elbows and an unloaded rifle lying on the seat in full view. Never an issue, not even in the last case; the officer involved didn't even bother to ask about the rifle.
 
Just a tip for anyone else reading this; Get yourselves some of those luggage id holders that you use for air travel. Put your ATT in that. It's attached to the case securely and visible outside without needing to open it. Put a backup one in the case if you want.

No comment on how to 'handle' police.
 
Be polite, tell the truth but do not volunteer any information.

One sees a lot of utube videos of guys filming traffic stops and acting like a belligerent jailhouse lawyer. If i was the Cop in this situation it would both annoy me, and arouse suspicion. Personally since i want to be on my way as soon as possible, i cooperate, am polite, and smile. Doing this is going to have you on your way quicker, and any request for further information or a search is unlikely.
 
Guys: one last point to consider and ponder on since it MAY change how you deal with the previous situation. Through shooting I know lots of cops - some really well. One night I asked one of them "considering I've NEVER (in 53 years of driving) had an accident or anything other than parking tickets and probably maybe more than my 'fair share" of speeding tickets - if you "ran my name through CPIC" what would come up." He thought for a moment then said "NOTHING." A moment later he recanted "nothing UNLESS at some time you'd given an officer a "bad time" while getting one of those speeding tickets AND he'd made a notation on his copy "ATTITUDE" - THEN your name would likely create a "hit" on the computor." Something to keep in mind when being pulled over for WHATEVER reason!
 
ontheglide said:
I'm aware there is the position that the officer should not be conducting a search without reason or a warrant, but in this case, the path of least resistance is to provide the access willingly. If you don't, it could be considered you are hiding something. I, personally, would not want an officer thinking I was hiding anything.
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If an officers suspicion is raised because you are unwilling to waive your rights and allow a search of your property there is something really wrong with todays police. Sticking up for yourself and knowing your own rights should not be a red flag to an officer. A random search does nothing to alleviate an officers suspicion because if you were a potential suspect in a crime they would already have legal grounds to conduct the search in the first place rather than asking you to submit to them.

I doubt any police officer would submit his property for a random baseless search by someone they do not trust, why should anyone else?
 
I got pulled over twice since I got my PAL.. Once, it was a garden variety speed trap, firearms never came up. 2nd time was for an abrupt lane change, late at night, in a ghettoish area. Told the cop that my rifles (didn't own any restricteds at the time) were safe and sound, legally stored at home in the safe. Started yapping about gun clubs and eventually he sent me on my way without a ticket.
 
Wired leader said:
This question comes up often and I'm not sure it has been answered with any certainty
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It most certianly has been answered. There are two camps, one supported by the law the other supported by second or thrid hand urban myth.

Person acting at direction of public officer
(10) A person who commits an act or omission that would otherwise constitute an offence is justified in committing it if

(a) a public officer directs him or her to commit that act or omission and the person believes on reasonable grounds that the public officer has the authority to give that direction; and

(b) he or she believes on reasonable grounds that the commission of that act or omission is for the purpose of assisting the public officer in the public officer’s law enforcement duties.
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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-9.html#docCont

If they tell you to open it you can not be charged if you do. That is the bottom line

Shawn
 
superted said:
Guys: one last point to consider and ponder on since it MAY change how you deal with the previous situation. Through shooting I know lots of cops - some really well. One night I asked one of them "considering I've NEVER (in 53 years of driving) had an accident or anything other than parking tickets and probably maybe more than my 'fair share" of speeding tickets - if you "ran my name through CPIC" what would come up." He thought for a moment then said "NOTHING." A moment later he recanted "nothing UNLESS at some time you'd given an officer a "bad time" while getting one of those speeding tickets AND he'd made a notation on his copy "ATTITUDE" - THEN your name would likely create a "hit" on the computor." Something to keep in mind when being pulled over for WHATEVER reason!
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I am no lawyer, but if one could access your file containing notes on attitude opinions wouldn't that violate your charter rights by prejudice?
 
skip1600 said:
The last time I was pulled over with a firearm, the officer saw the case, asked if it was a rifle, asked if I had a license to have it and then asked me ... And I quote "everything good with it?" .. Didn't actually check my license or the goodness of it... And I didn't feel it necessary to bring up the half dozen handguns under the rifle case
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Well as long as the "goodness" was good ;) Great line.
 
keep it covered up

always


pretty much any time cop or civilian see a gun of any type for any reason everyone goes into a panic, they assume you are dangerous, and their true "knowledge" of the Firearms Act becomes quite evident


down my way, NS, unless you are hunting during deer season in hunter's orange they assume your a poacher or criminal...... not remotely aware there is other game or hunting periods in the province.... true story (example)


gun call!
 
Easterner said:
I am no lawyer, but if one could access your file containing notes on attitude opinions wouldn't that violate your charter rights by prejudice?
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If having an attitude contrary to the RCMP with respect to firearms was something be kept on file im am certain we would all have a pretty big file.........


considering were are the cliche "pros" and they (CACP etc) are the cliche "antis" who want to disarm us all while also giving them self "more powers" of monitoring our emails, etc. (er, I mean pedophiles and terrorists emails...because they are the only one's theyll monitor, right?)
 
StoneHorse said:
I know there are more that a few people here on CGN that are absolutely paranoid about traveling with a restricted firearm. I swear some of them would sh*t themselves if they ever spotted a police car behind them. Those people really should pick a different sport.
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My LEO buddies were actually impressed by how much fire power I could pack into the extended cab of my Ranger.
Be polite, be respectful, be honest. Three simple things that go a long way when dealing with the police.
 
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