The New Kel-Tecs

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Kel Tec is revealing two new bullpups at Shot Show this year with their RDB and M43.

Scaling down from their successful RFB .308 rifle, the RDB and M43 are both .223 bullpup rifles using downward brass ejection system rather than the forward system of the RFB.

The RDB is the modern variant, while the M43 is described as a “cold-war inspired design.” The internals on both rifles are the same, but while the RDB features polymer and picatinny, the M43 is all wood and steel. New rifles in old styles are something I’d like to see more of.

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Both rifles feature a 17.4″ barrel and use a short stroke piston system. The bolt travel is quite a bit longer than conventional rifles in order to eject brass out the downward chute behind the magazine well.

The magazine release on these is a metal slider in a similar position to the Tavor’s magazine release, right behind the knuckle of the shooting hand’s thumb.

The bolt release is an ambidextrous setup, but the charging handle can be manually locked back as well.

The RDB’s optics rail mounts directly to the barrel, while the M43 has a heat shield over its piston. Rather than optics, the M43 has integral folding sights, with the large front sight base being threaded onto the end of the barrel.

The barrel on both rifles has a substantial length of 1/2 x 28 thread. On the RDB a spacer is followed by a standard A2 flash-hider, but on the M43 the front sight base threads onto the barrel with space for a flash-hider.

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The charging handle we saw was reciprocating, although numerous Kel-Tec representatives said they are working on a non-reciprocating version. We did see a folding charging handle on one of the M43s that made for a much lower profile on the rifle.

Kel-Tec’s new rifles are certainly unique bullpups, and the wood and steel concept behind the M43 is something I think deserves some praise. We’ll have to see when these guns actually appear on the market whether they find acceptance in the growing bullpup community.
 
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Would love an M43 without iron sights and a rail.

I thought the D in RDB meant downward ejecting. I'm guessing it will have dual extractors like the RFB but the the bolt will cam downwards dumping the spent case behind the mag well

Eta- maybe the extractors themselves only pivot downwards,
The exact opposite direction of the RFB.
 
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My guess is price point won't matter as Vault will only bring them in if they have a longer barrel/NR status (so much more expensive). Of course you could import them after the fact but they'll be restricted (which will kill it for most people).
 
they made a canadian version of the RFB, hopefully see the same with these.

I do not like the iron sights on the M43, hopefully that is an option or easily removed without it looking like they were ever there

This is probably the cheapest solution to the horrible trigger on the tavor provided it is as good as the RFB trigger
 
To be honest it's my cup of he and I'd look ke to get one of each plz.

Brian46 I think that if I understand right the m43 front sight just unscrews, and since this seems like a gmc and Chevrolet half ton kinds deal I wouldn't be surprise if the rdb an m43 share the same rail and the m43 reading sight is just attache to it.

Also how awsome would a 7 62x39 m43 be!
 
They would have to be fairly inexpensive. I like my RFB but... The Tavor is a significantly better firearm. This is really obvious once you look under the hood. If a choice between this and the Tavor at similar costs the Kel-tec wouldn't even be a distant second choice. The RFB being what it is in 308 is it's biggest selling feature. A decent firearm, super short/compact for a 30 cal semi auto. There are better options though in 223/5.56.

The retro one is interesting. But I don't think I'd buy one. It is cool looking in a retro way though.

One last thought. From what I'm seeing I like the forward eject of the RFB better. The downward eject looks as if the action is longer and the LOP looks like it might be a bit long. The PS90 does downward eject properly!! Same with that AR PS90 upper for a regular AR upper.

The mag release on these new ones is an improvement. Glad to see they copied the Tavor. At least fast mag changes should be possible now.
 
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The sad part we probably won't see them beffor 2015-2016

Also what does the gaz system looks like? Tilting or rotating bolt?
 
The sad part we probably won't see them beffor 2015-2016

Also what does the gaz system looks like? Tilting or rotating bolt?

Was wondering that too. I'm betting on tilting block. Although they need to go rotating bolt which locks up. I prefer that over tilting. Less vertical stringing or other accuracy issues.

I think 2015 would be very optimistic. I waited over 3 years for the RFB after it's first Shot show introduction. I was in on the second batch which we received the same time the Americans started getting them in at actual volumes rather than one a week escaping the factory.
 
Was wondering that too. I'm betting on tilting block. Although they need to go rotating bolt which locks up. I prefer that over tilting. Less vertical stringing or other accuracy issues.

I think 2015 would be very optimistic. I waited over 3 years for the RFB after it's first Shot show introduction. I was in on the second batch which we received the same time the Americans started getting them in at actual volumes rather than one a week escaping the factory.

I was hopping for a ksg like rollout
 
I dont know, it looks home made lol. If they were going to design something from the ground up why not make it more aesthetically appealing? That front sight is hideous. Just my opinion of course.
 
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These would be sweet, although I am probably not interested unless they are around the 1000$ range as they are restricted due to barrel length. It would be nice if they added an inch to the barrel so we could possibly get NR status. 17" barrel in Canada is just a waste.
 
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