Ruger Red Label 20 Gauge Value ?

For what it's worth. last summer I sold a Citori 20 gauge in every bit as good of condition as the Red Label. Although a personal choice, I would prefer the Citori. At the time I sold it, I had it awhile before I finally got $850.00. One sees asking prices everywhere, whether it be in a shop or online. The asking prices don't mean much (except maybe to scare some away). It is the selling price that counts and that is the price that 99% of the time we never know what it actually was. I don't believe the OP stated if he was buying or selling. If selling, start high and see what happens. You can always lower your price.
 
guntech said:
John, where did you get that moose emblem displayed with your shotgun?
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My wife gave it to me, if memory serves me correct, for a Christmas gift a number of years back. It's a trivet with the;) primary function or purpose to help protect the coffee table in my den from hot meals while I'm watching a hockey game on the tube for example. A poor photo but you can sort of see it on the table.



As Mr. Moose is my favorite big game animal to hunt and as table fare, just for the h**l of it, I started including the trivet in long gun photos.
 
guntech said:
So severely shortened? It is only 1/2 an inch. It fits the vast majority of those 5'10 or 11 if you have a jacket on. Length can vary so much with how the shooter shoulders the gun... across his body butt more out on his arm or more in front with butt more in his shoulder and add or subtract a jacket ... those things can be an inch and a half difference.

Collectors - well they want all original and would prefer the box and hanging tags too.
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Yes and NO on the collectors part. There are all types of collectors out there and sure we would like to have unfired and in the box with paperwork. But that is pie in the sky with most guns in canada so I and others am happy most times just finding one mint. Stock alterations yes are negative but again pending the price and what spare parts the collector has in his stash to replace it many not be a big deal nor would it be for many hunters.
 
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How long are those barrels? For a smaller shooter this would make for a fantastic upland gun. I'd be tempted to buy something like this if the LOP was an inch longer.
 
guntech said:
So severely shortened? It is only 1/2 an inch. It fits the vast majority of those 5'10 or 11 if you have a jacket on. Length can vary so much with how the shooter shoulders the gun... across his body butt more out on his arm or more in front with butt more in his shoulder and add or subtract a jacket ... those things can be an inch and a half difference.
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A visit to the ruger site list a l.o.p. of 14.5" for the Red Label... so you've lost an inch. The older Red Labels had thinner pads, so you've likely lost more than that to accomodate the thick pad.

The "standard" length for a shotgun stock was set in the first decades of the last century, when the average height for a north american male was 5'-9". We tend to be a lot taller now. At 6' even, I shoot 14 3/4-15", and I was measured up by an English smith. Most shooters today have never tried anything but standard issue factory stocks, and have no idea how well ( or poorly ) they might shoot with longer stocks. But in my experience, having a stock that's significantly too short won't make hits any easier when using a fast handling upland gun.
 
9.3mauser said:
A visit to the ruger site list a l.o.p. of 14.5" for the Red Label... so you've lost an inch. The older Red Labels had thinner pads, so you've likely lost more than that to accomodate the thick pad.

The "standard" length for a shotgun stock was set in the first decades of the last century, when the average height for a north american male was 5'-9". We tend to be a lot taller now. At 6' even, I shoot 14 3/4-15", and I was measured up by an English smith. Most shooters today have never tried anything but standard issue factory stocks, and have no idea how well ( or poorly ) they might shoot with longer stocks. But in my experience, having a stock that's significantly too short won't make hits any easier when using a fast handling upland gun.
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As in post #19, that's what mine is. Actually closer to 14.25".
 
We are getting way off the topic here but that doesn't matter...
There is so much difference in shouldering positions and so much difference in shooting disciplines and in bodies. No doubt any slim build 6 footer with long arms needs a different stock length than a heavy built, stocky no neck 6 footer with short arms... There is no fixed length that will satisfy all. That's simple.

Factories can only economically make one length of stock today... and they make it slightly on the long side so it will fit most and is easily shortened for the majority who require it. Unfortunately anyone over 6 feet and with long arms won't find a mass produced factory stock long enough.

Over 45 years I have shortened far more stocks than I have ever had to lengthen. Most of those shooters with a jacket on were having problems quickly shouldering the gun... the factory stock just too long... When I was in Alberta I had two stock lengths, one for spring/summer use and one for fall and winter... although I could always shoot the shorter stock, the longer stock was always more awkward.

Trap shooters shooting American trap or skeet on the other hand prefer a long stock as they deliberately take their time and slowly get the gun in position before calling for a bird... a much different situation than in the field on game.

I love that moose trivet.
 
guntech said:
The title says it... what is a fair price for one of these... bluing is unblemished as new. Wood has very few and very minor handling marks. A Pachmayer decelerator recoil pad has bee professionally added. Length of pull is 13.5 inches. Improved cylinder and modified fixed chokes.

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3 inch gun Dennis or 2 3/4?
 
RED LABEL
- 12, 20, or 28 (new 1994) ga., 3 in. chambers (except 28 ga.), various barrel lengths and choke (including skeet) combinations, boxlock, SST, 26 or 28 in. VR barrels, auto ejectors, choice of checkered pistol grip or English straight grip (new 1992, Red Label English Field) stock, stainless steel frame became standard on 12 ga. 1985 (not available in 20 ga.), choke tubes became optional in 1988, standard 1990, 6-7 3/4 lbs. New 1977.

I don't think anyone makes a modern 20 gauge in 2 and 3/4 inch...
 
guntech said:
RED LABEL
- 12, 20, or 28 (new 1994) ga., 3 in. chambers (except 28 ga.), various barrel lengths and choke (including skeet) combinations, boxlock, SST, 26 or 28 in. VR barrels, auto ejectors, choice of checkered pistol grip or English straight grip (new 1992, Red Label English Field) stock, stainless steel frame became standard on 12 ga. 1985 (not available in 20 ga.), choke tubes became optional in 1988, standard 1990, 6-7 3/4 lbs. New 1977.

I don't think anyone makes a modern 20 gauge in 2 and 3/4 inch...
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You are correct within the context. However, current production Game Guns are still mostly chambered for 2 3/4in cartridges.
 
guntech said:
John, where did you get that moose emblem displayed with your shotgun?
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Way off topic, but I saw them at a little gift store in Horseshoe Bay a couple years ago. I don't recall the name of the store, but it was next to a fish & chips vendor that sold take-out through a window. Take a Sunday drive.

And I wouldn't sell the Ruger for less than $1000.
 
When this post came up asking about pricing I stated $900-$1100 then the pricing started flying all over the map interestingly enough there is the same style gun on EE for $950.00 and it has not sold just saying
 
I did sell it on the EE. My experience is a fair price for a 98% condition is $1000 to $1100 (in Canada). You will find people who would not pay that and you will find people who would not sell theirs for that. In the US it would be at least $150 more and in US dollars.
 
struff55 said:
When this post came up asking about pricing I stated $900-$1100 then the pricing started flying all over the map interestingly enough there is the same style gun on EE for $950.00 and it has not sold just saying
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We always value your feedback Stuff55 and the initial gun if I could not get 1000 I would be keeping it
The other was just listed so give it a chance and yes it is a ruger 20 ga but to me that is where it stops vs guntechs
Cheers
 
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