If it says pistol mag, it might not get seized. I had a CZ858 drum mag, shipped from Zahal.org, that was seized by Canada Customs. It was supposed to be pinned to 5 rounds, but it was shipped un-declared too. I'd reccomend buying these mags from a domestic supplier until Zahal decides to play ball with the CBSA import regulations.
vz-58 10 round pistol mag
- Thread starter sdwatt
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Domestic suppliers have tried and are trying currently to bring these in. At this point the pistol is not widely available in Canada so the mag is PROHIBITED. I am not sure if the suppliers have a cz pistol in for classification/inspection yet or not but I got the feeling that until the RCMP approve the pistol frt the mags stay safe from all the scary red rifles that are breeding like bunnies on the streets of Canada.From actually reading the dealer threads about the 858 fiasco it looked like it was a giant screw up on two consecutive orders that cost the dealer a lot of money, which ended in the decision not to import any more as opposed to reclassification issues.
Like I said, if the importer is worried that no one will buy their 300 vz 58 pistols they just imported because everyone just wants the magazines, all they have to do is NOT to sell the magazines separately at first, have them only bundled with the purchase of the vz58 pistol like a vz 58 pistol with 6 mags for instance. Then once they have sold all those pistols they can start selling the mags separately. It's pretty easy to figure out. With all the thousands of 858 and vz 58 in Canada there is a huge demand for a 10 round mag in that platform.
BCshooterFMJ
Regular
- Location
- British Columbia
What was the giant screw up? As I remember the giant screw up was that after years and years of these rifles coming in, the RCMP finally noticed they were being built from old FA guns, hence , they need to be shipped back, and for the record, NO dealers importing the VZ 858 anymore. (Not a single one that I found anyways)
stevey3737
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- Southern Interior
Where does it say anywhere on the RCMP website that the pistol has to be readily available to use the magazine in a rifle? It doesn't! All it says is that the magazine that is used in both and is either pinned to or only secures 10 rounds than it fine to use in either but if it contains more than 10 whether its rimfire or centrfire and it is designed for both than its prohibited because of our pinned to 10 pistol mag laws. please show me where its states what everyone on here is believing is true
thanks
thanks
Try the CCC the RCMP site is just general guidelines , the laws are laid out in the CCC .
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-462/fulltext.html
stevey3737
Regular
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- Southern Interior
Thank you very much!!
Not true in the least - if you want a restricted XCR with a 10.5 inch barrel and a buttstock, you can get it - what you'll get is an XCR pistol fitted with a buttstock assembly. The receivers are identical, except for the lack of a stock plate. Once fitted the firearm is a restricted rifle. Another example is an AR lower marked "pistol" - it doesn't remain a pistol if you build a C7A2 clone off it.
A poor example. ARs are restricted regardless of barrel length/rifle/pistol classification. Look at the revolving carbines recently brought in - restricted even though barrel and over all length restrictions are satisfied (for a NR rifle), clearly designed to be fired with two hands. Why are they restricted? Because the RCMP has determined that they are a pistol frame.
Not true. The RCMP has decided that once a handgun, always a handgun. If you take a Remington XP-100 bolt action pistol, add a full stock and a long barrel it remains a restricted firearm, even though it meets every requirement to be non-restricted.
Mark
These threads are fun. So many people with such narrow views. There are no importers for the CZ 858, correct. However there are still CSA vz58's and Trigger wholesale is currently importing a different manufactured Vz58 as well. So there's still two guns being imported that use these mags. Plus the numbers already in the country. The CZ 858 debacle really has no bearing on this conversation beyond a historical note of models in the country that would be able to accept the magazines. Get beyond that point and contribute something tangible to this conversation.
Really the best shot I would see is that as Trigger Wholesale is importing American made Vz58's bring in a limited number of the pistols annnnd there you go. Although it may contradict their plans on expanding the interarms 2013 sporter rifle with a semi auto line. But lets hope
Really the best shot I would see is that as Trigger Wholesale is importing American made Vz58's bring in a limited number of the pistols annnnd there you go. Although it may contradict their plans on expanding the interarms 2013 sporter rifle with a semi auto line. But lets hope
Doesn't the paragraph suggest that any pistol mags for a vz58 pistol would have to be pinned to 5?
2. Magazines designed or manufactured for both centrefire calibre rifles and handguns
Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic rifle are limited to five cartridges. However, magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both semiautomatic rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the limit of five cartridges.
Only if they are designed for use in both. If these mags are brought in as pistol only mags and advertised as pistol only, then they can have 10 rounds.
Mark
speedjunkiesracing
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- Kitchener Waterloo Area Ontario
Was just going to buy some 10 round mags.
Maybe I will wait a bit. CRAP
Maybe I will wait a bit. CRAP
