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TacticalTrunkMonkey

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Went out with a buddy who is big into long range shooting and I've decided to branch out. I've ordered a Savage 10TR, I've been looking at options for scopes but not sure what my best option is so I'm going to the pros. He's running a Viper PST but I'd like something a bit cheaper but still good quality. I'd like something good for 300-400m. Couple options I was looking at:

Between $400-$500 range:
Nikon Monarch 3 4-16x42
Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44

Or spend an extra $200
Viper HS-T 4-16x44
Viper HS LR 4-16x50

If I can stay under $700 and get something good quality. I was leaning towards the HS-T, for the extra money is it well worth it over the Viper or Monarch? The only experience I have with Nikon is a Prostaff I have on a 17HMR. Cheers.
 
Glass is the one thing you will never regret spending money on mate. As soon as you look through one of the top end scopes someone else has you'll wonder why you didn't wait and save up. If it were me I'd spend as much as I can afford and never look back. Save the extra $200 and buy the HST.
 
I just picked up a viper PST, and my first impressions are very good. It seems well made, the glass is clear, and it tracks very, very well. If you can spend the extra 200 I would go for the HS- LR 4-16 x 50, as it will let in a bit more light with the bigger objective lens. Buy the best scope you can afford. I got a good deal on the EE, and was able to get a scope that would have been out of my price range otherwise. Watch there for a couple of days and you may see what you are looking for pop up.
 
Hirsch Precision has a good deal on Nightforce NXS 5.5-22X56 right now. I ordered one up. Cant beat the price at $1550. It is a lot of money, but in the long run it will pay for itself.
 
No, I don't see the need to have the Zero stop. I feel you should know your zero, and not trust a mechanical device to set it for you. (although I have been told that they are bomb proof)


I've spoiled myself with a couple and I find myself using them enough to not want to go without. That is still a good price on a great scope though.
 
No, I don't see the need to have the Zero stop. I feel you should know your zero, and not trust a mechanical device to set it for you. (although I have been told that they are bomb proof)

I have the zero stop, I never use it. What I do like is the high speed turrets the zero stop models have, being able to dial up 20MOA in a single rotation is great and ironically pretty much negates the need for the zero stop in the first place.
 
I have the zero stop, I never use it. What I do like is the high speed turrets the zero stop models have, being able to dial up 20MOA in a single rotation is great and ironically pretty much negates the need for the zero stop in the first place.

Whereas I feel the opposite.

I use my zero stop multiple times every time I go shooting. I wouldn't buy a scope without it. First order of business every time the rifle comes out is to pop the bi-pod, and crank down on the elevation to zero. Don't have to look where I am or where it ended up because I know it's at zero.

I also like low speed turrets. I like the more course clicks and to be void of the need to "look" and double confirm where you are at. Especially with cold hands, the close clicks and small amount of rotation can be problematic. Forcing you to use finger tips (dainty) instead of solid grips and rotations of the turrets. With course clicks they are solid and you know where you are. Using my Razor with 15 MOA turrets to a zero stop NSX NF was night and day. I'm glad I don't have them. I've even had to "adjust" the NF users turrets when I noticed the adjustment correction was dialed in wrong. I had a chuckle at that.

Word of warning. When I shoot speed is not required. Even if it was, I don't think I'd want fast turrets.

It's a pretty minor detail, but still a preference to me. Zero stop is a must.
 
I just started to compete in tactical sniper matches, anywhere from 50 to 1000 meters. A couple of folks without zero stops virtually lost their zeros during the competition due to the pressure. its nice to have a garanteed zero stops without having to count your revolutions on the way up and back down. I currently have a Vortex Viper PST 6-24 x 50 with a one inch tube, ebr2 millradian reticle with .01 millradian adjustments on elevation and windage in 1st focal plane and a zero stop...you cant go wrong with this price and feature combination, think it was 1200 bucks all together
 
Some good info in this thread but to get back to the OPs question, yes get the HS-T. It's worth the extra money just for the better turrets an will do what your looking for just fine.
 
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