G17 vs G19 for first gun, thoughts?

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TryinG To Decide Which One I Should Get. Obviously, If I Go Glock 19, It Will Have To Have An Aftermarket Barrel. I Wonder If There Will Be Reliability Issues With This. Interested In G19 As I Have Small-Ish Hands. However, I've Never Handled One. I've ShoT The G17 A Number Of Times And I'm Decent With It.
 
G19's grip is not smaller but shorter, it doesn't help small hand people, if you shoot fine with G17, go with it. If you are aim for the G19. made sure you get the one with IGB barrel which is the company who make the barrel for Glock. This youtube video taken by one of the fellow gunnutz Ghostie, you can see how sweet is the od green G19.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRWKLOo0n4

Trigun
 
G17 is cheaper by about a case of ammo, get the 17 and shoot the ammo - then decide what sights to put on your Glock, what holster/mag pouch to buy, etc. Look up 25 cent trigger job, so you don't blow the farm on internals. Later on, get the 19 - there won't be any reliability issues.
 
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G19's grip is not smaller but shorter, it doesn't help small hand people, if you shoot fine with G17, go with it. If you are aim for the G19. made sure you get the one with IGB barrel which is the company who make the barrel for Glock. This youtube video taken by one of the fellow gunnutz Ghostie, you can see how sweet is the od green G19.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRWKLOo0n4

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1. You can't buy a new G19 with a IGB barrel anymore. The company that sold them can no longer sell G19/G23's to the general public anymore.
2. IGB does not make barrels for Glock.
3. You can still order a G19 with a Lone Wolf barrel from Questar.
4. IGB customer service sucks big time.
 
That's good practical advise enefgee and good article gopher. Thanks everyone, I'll probably go with the G17. I'm worried too if something happened to the aftermarket barrel if I got a G19, it would be more hassle to replace it.
 
That's good practical advise enefgee and good article gopher. Thanks everyone, I'll probably go with the G17. I'm worried too if something happened to the aftermarket barrel if I got a G19, it would be more hassle to replace it.

Honestly most of the barrels out there are at least equal to factory barrels, and getting them isn't a big deal - the only issue with Glock barrels is that they lead quite heavily if you shoot lead bullet reloads. The answer is to clean the bore every few hundred rounds, but there have been cases where people didn't and had barrel failure. If you actually treat your Glock like any other pistol (ie clean it after every range trip) you'll never have a problem.
 
G19's grip is not smaller but shorter, it doesn't help small hand people, if you shoot fine with G17, go with it.

The G19 grip is not smaller, but it is shaped differently and certainly does help small hands. I have small hands and the G17 feels like holding a 2x4 where the G19 is quite comfortable for me.

TBH, I wouldn't recommend either for a first gun, I would say OP should get a rimfire handgun instead and learn to shoot with it. If it has to be one of the two in OP, I would recommend the G17 unless OP has very small hands, it is much cheaper and is easier to shoot with less felt recoil and a longer sight radius. I have a Gen.4 G19 and it is noticeably snappier in recoil than a G17, which is not what a new shooter needs to deal with while learning the fundamentals of shooting.


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I wouldn't recommend buying a handgun as a first gun at all.

How come? My interest is target shooting, not hunting. I already know which guns I want to get. I want a G17, AR15, a bolt action rifle then a 1911. Since the AR is much more expensive and the 1911 will be a collection type gun, and hunting and shooting long range is not my main interest, that's why I'm going with a G17 first.
 
Honestly most of the barrels out there are at least equal to factory barrels, and getting them isn't a big deal - the only issue with Glock barrels is that they lead quite heavily if you shoot lead bullet reloads. The answer is to clean the bore every few hundred rounds, but there have been cases where people didn't and had barrel failure. If you actually treat your Glock like any other pistol (ie clean it after every range trip) you'll never have a problem.

So it isn't difficult to import aftermarket barrels?
 
The G19 grip is not smaller, but it is shaped differently and certainly does help small hands. I have small hands and the G17 feels like holding a 2x4 where the G19 is quite comfortable for me.

TBH, I wouldn't recommend either for a first gun, I would say OP should get a rimfire handgun instead and learn to shoot with it. If it has to be one of the two in OP, I would recommend the G17 unless OP has very small hands, it is much cheaper and is easier to shoot with less felt recoil and a longer sight radius. I have a Gen.4 G19 and it is noticeably snappier in recoil than a G17, which is not what a new shooter needs to deal with while learning the fundamentals of shooting.


Mark

Appreciate the advise but I have no interest in rimfire pistols. I shoot 2.5inch groups with a G17 at 7 yards, albeit it's slow fire. Not bragging, just saying that I'm not a total noob.
 

This way you can shoot both .40S&W and 9mm from the same gun by just changing out the barrel. The G22 mags will even work with 9mm rds.

So it isn't difficult to import aftermarket barrels?

Not at all...you see them for sale on the EE all the time. You can buy/order one through several sponsors or import one yourself from Brownell's.
 
This way you can shoot both .40S&W and 9mm from the same gun by just changing out the barrel. The G22 mags will even work with 9mm rds.



Not at all...you see them for sale on the EE all the time. You can buy/order one through several sponsors or import one yourself from Brownell's.

Not interested in shooting .40 either. Apparently it's harder on the gun, something about harsher/weirder recoil, more expensive etc etc and since I eventually wanna get a 1911, I'd rather shoot a .45 if I felt like shooting something other than a 9mm.
 
Where do you live ? I would highly suggest shooting and at the very least, handling both before purchasing. A firearm, especially a handgun should feel natural in your palm. If it feels at all awkward, it will show in your accuracy.

I was able to shoot a G19&17 at a local indoor range who rents firearms and found that my accuracy was far better with the 17. likely due to the longer sight line and barrel itself, however that was the rough I went.

Like anything, never buy firearms sight unseen ! Or unfired for that matter :p

Edit: the G19 does look pretty slick with the treaded barrel !
 
Where do you live ? I would highly suggest shooting and at the very least, handling both before purchasing. A firearm, especially a handgun should feel natural in your palm. If it feels at all awkward, it will show in your accuracy.

I was able to shoot a G19&17 at a local indoor range who rents firearms and found that my accuracy was far better with the 17. likely due to the longer sight line and barrel itself, however that was the rough I went.

Like anything, never buy firearms sight unseen ! Or unfired for that matter :p

Edit: the G19 does look pretty slick with the treaded barrel !

Edmonton. I don't know why my location is not showing up right now, it was not too long ago. I've shot the G17 a few times, about 6 times at least, and 100rds each time at least. I shoot on average 2.5 inch groups at 7 yards, slow fire. I've shot a G22 once, groups were okay too, although it was quite a while back and I was newer to guns back then so I don't remember much of the experience. I don't know any range here in Edmonton that has a G19 for rent. Maybe if I bump into someone here that has one and would like to let me test it out.

However, when you say don't buy a gun unfired, that would only apply to private sales right? I don't think gun stores would let you test fire a brand new gun. If you're referring to renting them before buying a specific make and model, then yeah I get that. With a Glock though, I don't think there's any reason to be concerned.
 
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