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Hello all,

I am probably not the first one to ask this question but the thing is I am looking for a US Optics dealer in Canada who could take an order based on the options available on the US Optics website.

I am really considering mounting one of them on top of my AI AX 50 after having considered the S&B naturally but it seems that the USO are very good optics too.

If you have some experience to share or good advise (could they withstand the .50 BMG recoil for instance), you are very welcome

Thank you.
 
I purchased my 1-8x from One Shot Tactical and am very pleased with it on my .308 rifle for 3 gun matches. Wanstalls also carries them.

I can't say for sure about the 50 as I've never had one, but they are very high quality scopes and designed for rugged use :)

lonedrone
 
Bought my T-Pal years ago. These scopes are second to none in their optics and way tougher than most. They're guaranteed to the original purchaser for life and they're truly a custom build limited only by your wallet. I bought mine directly from USO and they shipped to me no problem. One Shot would order for you I should think. I paid up front for my custom build. There were no problems.

Your 50 won't hurt it any.
 
lonedrone said:
I purchased my 1-8x from One Shot Tactical and am very pleased with it on my .308 rifle for 3 gun matches. Wanstalls also carries them.

I can't say for sure about the 50 as I've never had one, but they are very high quality scopes and designed for rugged use :)

lonedrone
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Hi lonedrone,

I am looking for the 5-25x58. Because the price tag is the same than S&B PM2 5-25x56 i am wondering whether it might be worth considering the USO or just heading directly to the german brand.

The 50 BMG recoil is quite heavy and want to be sure the scope will accept it without any problem and for a while.

Thanks for the info on OST and Wanstalls.
 
HKMark23 said:
Bought my T-Pal years ago. These scopes are second to none in their optics and way tougher than most. They're guaranteed to the original purchaser for life and they're truly a custom build limited only by your wallet. I bought mine directly from USO and they shipped to me no problem. One Shot would order for you I should think.

Your 50 won't hurt it any.
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Hi HKMark23,

Did you directly import the scope from USO ?

If so, who with as these items are ITAR controlled ?

Thanks.
 
theED said:
Hi HKMark23,

Did you directly import the scope from USO ?

If so, who with as these items are ITAR controlled ?

Thanks.
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It was about 8 years ago that I got mine. There were export restrictions then too but I'm still not sure how the situation compares with today. All I did was E-mail USO asking if they could ship to me and they said yes. I ordered & paid. It took about 4 months for the build & then they shipped it to me. Thats all there was to it. I'd just E-mail or call them, or contact One Shot Tactical. Again they're a hellofa tough scope and optics are of the gin clear quality you'll need. They recommended I get the honeycomb sun shade to protect the coatings as the benefit of the optics is less compromised than with the acrylic covers. I got the extra long eye relief eyepiece which you might prefer too.
 
HKMark23 said:
It was about 8 years ago that I got mine. There were export restrictions then too but I'm still not sure how the situation compares with today. All I did was E-mail USO asking if they could ship to me and they said yes. I ordered & paid. It took about 4 months for the build & then they shipped it to me. Thats all there was to it. I'd just E-mail or call them, or contact One Shot Tactical. Again they're a hellofa tough scope and optics are of the gin clear quality you'll need. They recommended I get the honeycomb sun shade to protect the coatings as the benefit of the optics is less compromised than with the acrylic covers. I got the extra long eye relief eyepiece which you might prefer too.
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Thank you for good advise and will contact OST and Wanstalls to check it out.

Currently the USO website is under maintenance and cannot access the custom optics page.

For importing the scope, you did it before Mr Obama changed the rules to make everything harder without any reason !
 
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Reticle is a H37.
 
theED said:
Your TRG looks great with the USO.
For mounting I will get a Spuhr probably if I can get a 34mm tube instead of 35.
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35 was it when I got mine so the rings are USO too. Though not a necessity, I used a lapping bar for mounting. I had it turned at the shop (perk ;)) from solid brass round stock. If you choose an offset reticle akin to the H37, it will save you the cost and complications of dealing with a 20 moa base. There's lots of travel in those big tubes or you can go with a Horus type reticle and probably not need any. The "business" of grid reticles is easy to manage with high quality optics and the 2nd shot "doping" is done for you.
 
There seems to have been some changes at USO as far as the the custom options are concerned. In their 2014 lierature it looks like they have discontinued a few scopes and significantly limited the number of options that were once available for custom order. Not sure if this was done for brevity in the catelogue or if the website simply has not been up-dated to reflect the changes.
For example this year they moved to a fast focus eye-piece that is the same as what you find on S&B, Zeiss, etc. it looks like they've standardized the tube diameter to 34mm, and made the EREK knob standard as well. One should call to confirm but this is how it appears in the new paper brochure. The scope you are looking at is now designated as the "ER-25".

To answer your question: how will it stand up to the recoil of a .50? I'd say you have no worries there. I had a USO SN-3 ( now called an LR-17) on a Steyr HS.50 for a bit and never felt the least bit of worry about it. In fact I'd say the scope would probably outlast the .50! :). If you have any concerns about durability go on USO's facebook page and see if they still have a video up of an SN-3 being thrown down range into the gravel then re-mounted on the gun to shoot same POI. It will absolutely sell you on their durability.

Ruggedness and durability aside, I feel there are other scopes out there that are better than the USO's in most other regards. The glass in the USO's is very good but not on the same level as S&B, Hensoldt, etc. in fact the new glass used in the Nightforce ATACR and Beast series is better than USO's glass in my opinion. The clicks on the EREK knob are not as distinct as I like to see in a LR scope, and I never liked the capped illumination control mine had. Again just my opinion.

The scary thing is they have actually become one of the most competitively priced LR scopes out there after nearly everyone else jacked their prices up for 2014. For example: S&B 5-25 PMII was $3145 this time last year, this year it is $3700 at the same dealer! This is partially due to increases from the manufacturer and partially our currency in relation to the Euro. Our plummeting dollar isn't helping things any but at least USO's pricing seems the same as it was.
 
Hi Marcoman,
Thanks for sharing experience on USO.
I was considering the USO rather than S&B as I already own one of them on a .338LM and like to try new brands sometime.
I also noticed the significant increase of price tag for S&B because of currency rates and USO became a good option though.
By the way, are you happy with the Steyr HS 50 ?
 
I loved my Steyr HS .50. I recently sold it however and bought an LRT-3. I considered buying the AX.50 but liked the fact that Ross ships the LRT-3 with a bunch of nice accessories in a fitted Pelican 1770.
I have just completed a barrel break in on the PGW and look forward to see what I can get out of her accuracy wise. Truth is this is a "fun gun" to let friends and family play with and get a thrill from shooting. I have a nice stock of match bullets set aside for it but really hope to find a good accurate (1moa or so) plinking load with weight sorted 650gr. pulled bullets.

I ended up putting a 5-25 PMII (Tan with Horus H59) on it and couldn't be more pleased with the package. I too like to experience different manufacturers products and have owned/own Nightforce, USO, Steiner Military, mark 4's but have settled on S&B as the brand I've chosen to outfit all my LR rigs with. I'm glad I got most my scope purchasing taken care of this past year, if it wasn't cost prohibitive to own some of this stuff before it sure is getting that way now! $6k scopes from S&B and Hensoldt aren't in this guys budget anytime soon.

If the Beast ever makes it to market you should consider it for your .50. It'll be tough as nails ( like all NF's) and looked pretty sweet mounted on the AX .50 at SHOT last year.
 
I have looked at USO and March, went with March, will be able to put it beside my S&B PMll, so i can make my own idea but at this level of quality, i dont think you can go wrong any ways you go... JP.
 
HKMark23 said:
Bought my T-Pal years ago. These scopes are second to none in their optics and way tougher than most. They're guaranteed to the original purchaser for life and they're truly a custom build limited only by your wallet. I bought mine directly from USO and they shipped to me no problem. One Shot would order for you I should think. I paid up front for my custom build. There were no problems.

Your 50 won't hurt it any.
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HKMARK23,
With all due respect the glass on US Optics is not in the same league as S&B, Premier Reticles, Hensholdt, Steiner... I user to have a SN 3-17 and it was a great scope and yes, probably tougher than any other on the market but optically it does not compete with the top end glass on the market. One of my shooting buddies has the USO 5-25 and it certainly is a good scope but in a side by side comparison to my 5-25 S&B and 5-25 Premier Reticles it just isn't there. The nice thing about USO is that they custom build your scope to your choice of tube size, reticle, knobs, internal bubble level, illumination...

As for ordering from USO, I was told by USO that they are no longer taking retail orders, they directed me to Europtic for purchases, I don't know if that was just because it was a Canadian order or if that is for Americans too. I would got through X Reload or Darren at One Shot Tactical.
 
Hi Marcoman,

If you want check out the long range forum in the .50 BMG section I posted some pics of my AX 50 without the scope.

As an lifelong AI fan I hope you will like it.

Cheers :)
 
theED said:
Hi Marcoman,

If you want check out the long range forum in the .50 BMG section I posted some pics of my AX 50 without the scope.

As an lifelong AI fan I hope you will like it.

Cheers :)
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Great looking rifle Ed! Maybe I'll get around to posting a pic of mine.
 
theED said:
Sounds very good to me.
The H37 hide too much the vision through the reticle for long range but the H58/59 are perfect.
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Mmm,, people not only favor their own decisions but also learn to adapt to them. For one thing, the H37, as stated on the Horus site, doesn't look exactly as pictured and with metric E & W click adjustments on the scope itself , subtending is something you quickly learn to take advantage of if you need to. I'll stand by my recommendations. The H37 is a versatile choice and its complications are offset by eliminating the 20 moa base. I expect the H58/59 reticle is a fine choice too,, just sayin ;).
 
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