Nov./Dec. 2013 NZ trip

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My wife and I took a trip to Fiji and New Zealand at the tail end of 2013. We left on Nov. 16, which was a bit of a bummer b/c it meant missing my favorite time to hunt whitetails at home but killing a big bull elk earlier on and the fact that the deer hunting was pretty bleak looking around here this year eased the pain a bit.

The trip was a total of 7 weeks and of course I incorporated a bit of hunting and fishing into it all. While I was off hunting my wife took a trans-alpine train trip and did some hiking....Men, keep this in mind. If you go to NZ and your wife is not a hunter, there are tons of things to see and do to keep wives/girlfriends occupied. It is also a very safe country. My wife has done a good bit of travelling on her own before so both her and I were completely comfortable with us parting ways to do our own thing for a bit.

The tahr hunt took place at the end of Nov. which is late spring in the Southern Alps on the South Island. Being a horned animal and no regulated season, they can be hunted year round. The one catch was that it may be difficult to find a good head with a good cape due to the animals starting to molt in preparation of warm weather coming.

My hunt was with an outfitter (PM me if you want details). I opted for a crown land hunt without the use of helicopters. I spoke with a few different outfits and booked with the one I ended up going with b/c he seemed to be the most willing to cater a hunt to what the client wants and he seemed like a good guy. A couple outfitters I spoke with were putting pressure on me to use a helicopter to access the high country and set-up camp or day hunt from the drop off point. I don't have a problem with people that want to do that...I just didn't want to. I've flown around in helicopters a lot so that part of it is of no interest to me and I just have better memories of a hunt when there's some blood and sweat involved.

Now that's out of the way. The hunt was an absolute blast. My guide (owner/operator of the business) was a great guy and a riot to hunt with. The country was every bit as (if not more) rugged than the Canadian Rockies. Beautiful scenery. The tahr were very plentiful and I shot a decent bull on the third day. His horns went 11.5" long and 8.5" bases. We did see some better bulls but the weather (rain and snow at high elevations) made things a bit tricky as there were some stream crossings to to do and the water kept getting higher and faster. With that, we opted to pursue a group of bulls that had a good mature bull in the bunch that were more accessible with the conditions we were facing.

I also used a loner rifle on the trip. It's not my preferred way to do things but the way our trip was happening - week in Fiji at the start, then road tripping around all of NZ for 5 1/2 weeks, bringing a rifle of my own would have just been a pain...although getting rifles into NZ is supposed to be pretty easy by all accounts. The rifle was a plain jane Remington 700 SPS .270 WSM with a VX3 2.5-8x36 on top. I shot a handful of rounds out of it laying over my pack before the hunt started to get a feel for the rifle and check the zero...all was well there. Ammo was factory Winchester grey box 150 power points (power points are good bullets as far as I'm concerned, whether factory loaded or used as a component bullet). Shot was a smidge over 200 yards on a pretty steep uphill angle. bullet entered low, tight behind the on-shoulder and angled up and stuck under the hid on the off-side. The bull went down and slid for about 300 yards downhill and proved to be tough to find in the tall tussock grass.

The pics!
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Once we got to the North Island we did some fishing out on the Pacific off the Coromandel. The target was yellowtail kingfish. Both my wife and I tied into a handful and had a blast doing that as well.
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I highly recommend NZ as a destination for outdoors enthusiasts. Hunting, fishing, hiking, exploring. It's all there. We did a couple of the big popular "tracks." Milford sound and Tongariro. We also did a number of smaller scenic hikes. Beautiful place and we'll definately be back.
 
There were some chamois in the area we were but it is not the place the outfitter takes clients looking for chamois. We did see one with pretty long horns that we ended up putting a stalk on. Once we were in shooting range and had the spotter on it, we determined it was a female and let it go. The hunt was booked as a tahr hunt but a buck chamois could have been had as a bonus if we came across a good one.
 
Bloody oath mate!

NZ, How Australia used to be.....


I myself will be hunting the South Island in 2 weeks for a Chamois or Red, public land.

thanks for a nice report. Glad you found it all a breeze.

WL
 
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Great pics, sounds like a wonderful vacation. As I am a total nube to hunting outside of Alberta are you able to share how the cost of hunting in NZ would compare to perhaps a South African hunt?

It sounds like it might be a great place to plan a winter vacation and have the added bounus of slipping in a hunting trip as well.
Regards,
Dave.​
 
of hunting in NZ would compare to perhaps a South African hunt?


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Gday Dave.
You could hunt over there for almost $0, The temporary visitors license is $25 upon arrival, DoC Hunting permits for the National Parks and Public land are $0 available online.

Obviously you are talking about Outfitters though, the above is for the Adventurous self sufficient hunter.

WL
 
Went to NZ once as well for a 3 month working holiday in January of '12 and I only ended up leaving because after 15 months there weren't any more visas to apply for!

That's awesome that you got yourself a Tahr - definitely a rare treat! I didn't get to spend too much time in the south island but seeing your pictures makes me regret ever leaving. Was this Westland/Aoraki National Park?
 
Looks like a lot of fun. Did you see all the d*** sheep? Wow. Lotsa sheep. In NZ there is now two new uses for sheep. Meat & wool. Hahaha
 
For anyone who likes to travel put NZ on your list. Inexpensive and lots of opportunity. Top quality hunting and fishing. Less people on the South Island and more temperate climate. The hiking is not as rough in most places as what we are used to in Canada and interesting species like chamois to hunt. Even better you can miss part of the winter if it is starting to wear on you.
 
Great pics, sounds like a wonderful vacation. As I am a total nube to hunting outside of Alberta are you able to share how the cost of hunting in NZ would compare to perhaps a South African hunt?

It sounds like it might be a great place to plan a winter vacation and have the added bounus of slipping in a hunting trip as well.
Regards,
Dave.​

I have never been to South Africa let alone hunted there. From what I gather on the internet though, plains game hunting is a bargain as far as guided hunting trips go. In NZ, you can do a single species hunt with an outfitter for as little as $1000 or so bucks for a few days all the way to "if you gotta ask, it's not for you" type of prices. The latter would be for Gold Medal heads on private estates with high end accommodations. If your going to go, I suggest start looking at outfitters a year + in advance if possible. Talk to the ones you are interested in, connect with people on internet forums that have been there/done that, check with the NZ hunting/fishing forum, etc.

Went to NZ once as well for a 3 month working holiday in January of '12 and I only ended up leaving because after 15 months there weren't any more visas to apply for!

That's awesome that you got yourself a Tahr - definitely a rare treat! I didn't get to spend too much time in the south island but seeing your pictures makes me regret ever leaving. Was this Westland/Aoraki National Park?

No, we were on the other side of the main divide. Canterbury area.
 
Hi big John. I see you were out with epic charters. Looks like a few good kingies were caught. Lots of fun. They pull light a freight train, aursum.
I commented on your thread befor you left think on Alberta outdoor.
Nice thar. I am heading down for six weeks April/ May. hopefully get sum snapper and kings, and trout, and going after Sika, reds and chammy.
Nice county the eastern southern Alps.
 
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