Curious question: Reason for making /AK's Prohibited

Dr Van Nostren answered the question.

The govt said it was due to the Montreal shootings.

It was really due to Oka...
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He might have been breaking other laws, but in 1990 this wasn't breaking any firearm laws.
It was a lot easier to pass the law on the graves of murdered students than it was to say what the real concern was.
 
You think AK owners have a problem? Ask a Steyr AUG owner. We can still "own" them - its just that we can't take them out and SHOOT them. End of story. And we can thank the Canadian senate for that act of "generosity". Any who doesn't believe this - read up on your recent history! Anyone guess what a new AUG cost in relation to an AK??? Yes I am bitter!
 
dangertree said:
Dr Van Nostren answered the question.

The govt said it was due to the Montreal shootings.

It was really due to Oka...
christophermorris.jpg


He might have been breaking other laws, but in 1990 this wasn't breaking any firearm laws.
It was a lot easier to pass the law on the graves of murdered students than it was to say what the real concern was.
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Please tell more? I was born in '91 so i was just a twinkle in my fathers eye at the time
 
AUGs were about 2700.00 plus tax and the AK went for 450.00 plus. Just imagine being one of the guys who owned a Barrett M82, The shame is in the value of a AUG nowadays, 1000 -1200 at best. 12.4 is a small class indeed
 
Thanks tj black - not many people know or care about this issue AND what really hurts is to see a newly manufactured gun (Tavor) with identical "features" being sold without similar restrictions ?????
 
Well, I thought so. But still we have Valmet and CZ. How the hell guy was ready to make transfer of restricted?... I dunno if it's good or bad that I passed this deal. It all goes down to FRT, eh? Maybe that built was not considered as "AK variant"?...
 
Blissified said:
Now i've known for ever that a,rs are restricted, i didn't just discover this. I was just thinking and wondering why they decided to do this, i'm not going to even waste time explaining how it makes no sence whatsoever to pick on a.rs by name.


Im going to make this a 2 part question and add ak's into the mix.

Now ak's the same thing. The answer for AK'S might be kind of obvious, but if thats the case then the laws just got even stupider. Did they really all out BAN ak's (and give this as the reason) because bad guys in movies use them?

And that no one called them out on this? Its sad that our government even has this kind of power in the first place, ahem the u.s constitution was the greatest document known to man, sadly even the u.s politicians especially the president spit on it daily.

edit:The title originally said AR's restricted and i posted in a different section but was edited and moved, i did originally mention ak.s like in the post but i was mainly talking about ars then asked OR MENT TO ask why ak's were also picked on and prohibited ... unless i was on drugs when i posted this and hallucinated or was just super tired, i did post this late at night

I don't know why this was moved, and title changed... I REPEAT I KNOW AK'S ARE PROHIB NOT RESTRICTED. I'm kinda mad that the title looks this way. make me look pretty ignorant.

Also i would like to add theirs tons of semi only ak's in the u.s
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This is why the AK is prohib and the AR is restricted as well as the FAL.

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2010/07/13/memories-of-oka/
 
Horilka said:
Well, I thought so. But still we have Valmet and CZ. How the hell guy was ready to make transfer of restricted?... I dunno if it's good or bad that I passed this deal. It all goes down to FRT, eh? Maybe that built was not considered as "AK variant"?...
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Passed what deal? If he was trying to sell you a restricted AK it's a good thing you passed that deal. Because it's a scam lol there is no such thing. Unless he's extremely uninformed and it's just a restricted vz58/cz858 and doesn't know the difference.
 
Dr van Nostran said:
The issue is the commercial semi auto AK's, not the actual article which was covered by 12(2) or 12(3).

When the semi auto AK's began to be imported in the late 70's/early 80's, most had 16" barrels and were covered by the restricted SBR regs.

This kind of limited their popularity.

In the 1980's, some importers started to have them made in China with longer barrels which allowed them to be imported as non restricted rifles.

Sound familiar?

The "assault weapons" hysteria manufactured by the media and gun control groups in the U.S.A. seeped across the border in the late 80's/early 90's. The AK became the symbol of L.A. street gangs (Bloods/Crips) and big city U.S.A. lawlessness.

Then, a few of the Indians in Oka in 1990 were featured quite prominently with Chinese semi auto AK's.

Kim Campbell and the PC's decided to legislate against guns and their owners, to show the media they were "doing something" to stop crime and prevent Canada going down the same path as the evil/awful/terrible/violent tm U.S.A.

All semi auto AK's were declared restricted by OIC under Bill C-17 (1991). The idea was to get them registered as a prelude to an organized, controlled confiscation by the RCMP at a later date.

They were in the restricted category for about a year or two, not many actually got registered. I think only about 4000 out of the tens of thousands imported. This was a popular sub $1000 gun, about the same as the CZ 58 of today, sold non restricted. As usual, the new law was poorly communicated, badly implemented, poorly understood by gun owners, police officers, firearms officers - everybody. Many semi auto AK owners did not get the memo about the change in the law.

Some police agencies made up their own rules and just confiscated them outright. You had to go to court to get them back. Some people actually got registrations, but they were the minority.

Kim Campbell and the PC's were defeated in the 1993 federal election by Chretien and the Liberals. During 93/94 there was chaos with the whole firearms classification system; people were getting charged under the new laws, guns were getting confiscated and going missing, nobody knew what the hell was going on. This was pre internet days so information was sketchy and poorly understood - even by the bureaucrats implementing and enforcing the law.

Alan Rock and the Liberals introduced Bill C-68 in 1995. All the military rifles restricted under C-17 were to be banned outright under C-68. They finally relented and allowed people who held registrations for them to be "grandfathered". DCRA made an argument that delayed adding the AR15 to the prohibited list, although the Liberals had an OIC prepared to do that later. Sneaky, but that's gun control lobbyists and politicians for you.

That's why they were banned. Not because they were any more dangerous than any other gun, but because it was politically expedient to do so.

And the RCMP/Media/Civil disarmament lobby want more done today. That's the "spirit of the legislation" after all.
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Kim Campbell was an idiot as was Chretien, Allan Rock, and Mulronie. Then we have E. Trudeau these people have done more to F**K up Canada than they did to make our lives better. Before Trudeau regime the Canadian Dollar was worth more than the US dollar. Life was good, taxes were reasonable, We now pay 65% of our income in taxes in one form or another. U could throw a gun over your shoulder, walk down the street to the range or go hunting and nobody batted an eye or even cared.
 
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