Hitting at 300m with a glock - how to prove bs

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:Those guys are working hard building their name in the firearm community, making a fake video is a good way to discredit all their previous/next work so I REALLY REALLY doubt that they are trying to bull#### us. That would make for really bad advertisement.
The point of the exercise is to demonstrate how far a 9mm can travel//collateral damage.

With someone spotting your shots I think this can be done, it looks legit to me.
 
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Zero is a pretty good shot among his other many firearms skills. I would sure 100% believe this video.

I can hit a 10 inch gong 9 time out of 10 with my JR carbine with 512 eothech and g33 magnifier at 220 meters with a 9mm +p. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to hit a gong at 300 meters with a 9mm handgun. Although yes it would be a hard shot to do, I sure wouldn't be able to do it, but this guy's a damn good shooter so I sure as hell wouldn't be calling BS on this video.
 
lejarretnoir said:
I regularly practice with a S&W 17 .22LR @ 100 meters on a 12" steel target for fun. 4 out of 6 shot hits is the norm for my bad eyes offhand.
If I could see at all with a pistol @ 300 meters I'd believe it can be done and would try it myself if I had a range for it.
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At this same distance of 100 meters, I've had similar success with my Hammerli single shot 22 LR target pistol.
 
owlowl said:
Hey,

so basically the question is, how do you prove a shooting video to be BS?

On a video "some trainer" shoots at 300m with a glock and claims he hits steel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYD73YvqH4

There is no doubt in my mind that the video is fake. The way it is done is in fact makes it very clear to me that they faked it on purpose. However, my question would be - how can you make a solid argument to debunk that?

All I can think of right now is that a drop of a 9mm luger at 300 meters is 120 inches. (based on http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/). 120 inches is 3 meters. The glock on the video has regular irons with no elevation adjustment, such that the point of aim has to be 3 meters higher than the target. Not only it is impossible to accurately judge 3 meters elevation at 300 meters, but it is also impossible to aim since the gun will cover the target and no way you can transition up and down that much and still maintain proper windage on a target that small.

How would you make an argument? Or you think its real?
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I think its REAL ! ;) When i shot IHMSA - max range was 200 meters for handgun - i used to take ( just for kicks) my Colt 1911 S-80 45 ACP and with 200 + 230 gr slugs I shot and hit the rams at 200 meters - NOT ! Enough to be competiive but enough that it was not a FLUKE ! No ajustable sights - all about guessing and hold over - Kinda like HAIL MARYS ! :D Cheers RJ
 
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There is absolutely nothing which can't be done with a Glock.

Who in his/her right mind needs a rifle when you have a Glock?
 
A place i used to shoot had an 18" round steel plate out at the far end about 170-180 yards. I could hit it 3 of 6 with my lframe once i got the hold over figured out. Why can some people believe a 3" hand gun group at 50 yards but not a 18" group at 300 yards. both are 6 moa. Its just a matter if figuring out the aim point,
 
Zeddy, Piperdown and I watched as 757Fixer hit a small block of aluminum at 300m on his first shot years ago with a Glock 21. No sighting shots, no warm up shots. First shot of the day after the targets were put out.
 
I honestly don't think the video is fake. Ive seen some other videos of that guy and he is no ordinary shooter. With enough practice at a known distance I don't see how it wouldn't be possible. If the drop is 3 m at 300 yards then aim 3 m high to start and work from there.
 
The guy might be (probably is) a bit 'off' but from what I've seen he sure can hit targets, he's pretty mobile for a big guy too. Most folks don't think you can shoot a 22 Lr accurately at 200 yards, others can show you the targets that prove you can.
 
Just because the shot is out of the realm of possibility for you doesn't mean that there aren't lots of folks who can do it. I've shot the steel ram at 200m at one of our local clubs with an OPP issued Sig229 .40 and hit it enough to prove it wasn't a mistake. I also planted 6 of 7 at 100m on a Figure 11 on the Charlie Range at Connaught in '03 with a 1911 so worn it almost disassembled itself when you shook it. A bunch of guys said it couldn't happen and it cost them $100...
 
Statistically, it's possible.
I hit 6 out of 10 at 80 meters (at first try) in Chilliwack, shooting at half-burried:

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It would be interesting to me if someone had a Ransom Rest and a range to test at any distance just to see how accurate any pistol could be.
It will prove how accurate factory and handloads are. I once owned one and tested various pistols @ 25 and 50 Meters. It was an education!

The problem with long range and pistol bullets is stability. They are by nature designed for short range target or live tissue incapacitation.
One could always use rifle type bullets in a handgun to extend the range and accuracy, but then the line gets crossed between rifles and handguns. The Rem XP100 for example and various varmint type pistols.
 
Shooting clay pigeons at 100m with a 9mm is pretty easy once you get your dope dialed in.
 
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