Liberals take away firearm from people BEWARE OF THEIR PLAN DO NOT VOTE

Anybody notice how most of the comments are pro gun? I can't believe they are trying this nazi ####. I hope people don't buy in...
 
The Liberals trying to align themselves with the Olympics rather than be upstaged by them is something that I never thought of. Mainly because the TV screens in the bars that I frequent have the Olympic events on; when I go home I have to hunt for Evan Sullivan interviewing Chrystia Freeland (a Liberal star).

Funding for Own the Podium quote from their web page: "The Government of Canada is Own the Podium’s largest endorser, contributing $62 million in enhanced excellence funding each year through Sport Canada. $22 million of this enhanced funding is committed to winter sports, $34 million for the summer sports and $6M is targeted to team sports."


If they are lousy at any one thing the Conservatives are failures at marketing their overall vision and their initiatives along the way.
 
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but this isn't an official Liberal policy (yet). Just a motion by their youth group. That said, they've tried to run on gun control in past elections, and haven't said otherwise for next time.
 
scout_289 said:
I can't get over how silly it is for the Liberals to hold their convention simultaneously with the height of the Olympics??? I mean it has to be arrogant to think that people are going to tune in to one of the most important (for the LPC) events before the 2015 elections when Women's Hockey, curling, etc. are filling us with national pride and riveting our attention! And they think that they are tuned in to the public pulse enough to run our great country? Pretty naive I'd say.

My prediction is that the polls after their little soiree are going to be so moribund that the man-boy is going to plead family pressures and bow out.
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I was thinking the same thing, IMO couldn't have picked a worse time to hold a convention and think anyone but a lieberal looser would care about the convention.
 
Once private property rights are taken away (including the right to own firearms), our other civil rights will surely be stripped in time.......... for our own protection of course.
 
We need to talk people that aren't in either camp(sensible firearms owners vs antis) and will not be effected by an out come either way...or so they think.

We need to present facts and examples that current laws and possible tougher firearms laws have NO effect on the criminals and crime.

The argument that will help us the most is getting people to see how much money was wasted implementing and maintaining the LGR and currently how much is wasted having a staff issue useless ATT

What will be the cost to the courts clogged up by law abiding people arguing for proper compensation...remind them if the government can steal our guns 'legally' it helps set a precedent to steal from citizens.

Most non firearms owners have very little concept of how much money we have invested.Using the CSSA estimate of 9 million firearms,if 50% were turned in on a buy back not including the cost of paying the firearms owner the

cost of administering,tracking,destroying,documenting(salaries,offices,warehouse,pick up & transport etc.) I'd be surprised if this could be done at a cost of less $1000/firearm so now we're looking at $4.5B(for 50% compliance)

Remind them what the estimated cost vs the true cost of the liberal last run at the registry was.Remind them they now have a dog in this fight...it will take money out of their pocket to create patronage jobs for liberals that do

nothing to deal with crime and violence.Remind them that even pony-boy believes it to be a failed policy but claims the liberals want to govern using evidence based policy(marijuana laws)...so which is it?

Eric
 
ohferpete said:
You got that right!. I think some people should not be allowed to vote unless they actually do some research on who they are voting for.
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I agree, but there is already a very low voter turnout Can you imagine what it would be like if you actually had to know what you're doing.
 
muskog said:
Once private property rights are taken away (including the right to own firearms), our other civil rights will surely be stripped in time.......... for our own protection of course.
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Thats why its important to push this issue forward to all parties . If you give them a FU they will do what they want ....if they think you might vote for them ........well they might give you something .....remember you don't have to vote for them . Hey politicians are never truthful why should you be ?
 
shortandlong said:
Thats why its important to push this issue forward to all parties . If you give them a FU they will do what they want ....if they think you might vote for them ........well they might give you something .....remember you don't have to vote for them . Hey politicians are never truthful why should you be ?
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This guy is 1000% right. Eventually, one of the other parties will get in. Quite possibly in the next election. Liberals, NDP, and even Greens have voiced opposition to public firearms ownership, particularly hand guns, semi auto fire arms, and military styled firearms. If they start recieving letters that basically say "while i support most of your policies and would otherwise give you my vote, your ill concieved position on public firearms policy, leaves me with no choice but to give my vote to the Conservative party", then they'll start to fear losing votes for what is a useless piece of legislation. Were better off as firearms enthusiasts to make all parties think bans on civillian firearms ownership = less votes.
 
I cant see the liberals gaining much ground, its obvious that trudeau is riding on his fathers laurels.

The anti Harper movement is pretty baseless I think he's done a lot for Canada. Balancing the budget, tossing out the long gun registry, abolishing the wheat pool and free trade with Europe.

If you ever watch the debates he's the only professional person that shows up the rest are just childish.
 
All this excitement over a Young Liberals resolution that had no chance of making it into the official platform.

And it didn't. It was soundly defeated, as expected.

I cant see the liberals gaining much ground, its obvious that trudeau is riding on his fathers laurels.
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Dunno about that. The Liberals are already 8 points ahead in the latest poll.

I actually agree that Trudeau seems to be riding mostly on personality, but it worked for Obama. In fact, Obama had a pretty centrist platform that was fairly well documented, if only people had read it. But few people seem to have voted for him based on that, and it's evident in the fact that many people who did vote for him feel betrayed, when in fact it turns out that (in the bull#### context of American politics) he's kept far more of his promises than the GOP congress.

I wouldn't discount Trudeau, or the party. There are a ton of center-left voters in Canada who haven't felt like they've had a real leader to rally around for many years since the party essentially self-destructed. Trudeau may not actually be a strong leader, but he looks enough like one to pass.

It's pretty early, but I wouldn't be surprised if we wound up with a Liberal minority government after the next election.
 
Like Heavy said, Trudeau looks like enough of a strong leader to get the vote. All he has to do is spout the same promises the left wants to hear and every college kid and bleeding heart in the country will vote for him if it feels like the right thing to do.

I'm just hoping we all don't end up losing thousands of firearms while scumbags keep buying illegal guns smuggled over the border. Feel-good legislation won't save decent people from criminals.
 
Has anyone here read about the "Free State" ( spelling ) movement going on in New Hampshire?

I think we need a like minded movement in Canada. I know our political system is different but we need a movement towards freedom not more Liberal fear mongering and control.

Australia is not a system I want to see any government follow yet alone our government. New Zealand system maybe but how about the government leaves me and my guns alone.

Can't believe the Liberals are still pushing this agenda.
 
Dfbshaw said:
Check out the comments. I wanted to "like" some of them but I have to log in with my Liberal id, which I don't /won't have.
Every single comment is against their gun policies. Most are " as a gun owning Liberal"...or "change your policies if you want votes".
The idea that emulating Australian or British gun policies will reduce violence is roundly condemned.
At least some of them have the right idea.
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Ok so Our plan should be to all join the Liberal Party (spits 3 times on ground) and create change from the inside by protesting bad and voting for good firearms bills and changing their mantra from the inside. Harper is playing both sides a bit too, he didn't kibosh the lgr in Quebec so there is a start for a comeback or provincial registry! he could have gone so much farther but stopped short, there was so much more that would have helped our cause. For me I will vote for whoever will guarantee to further the cause of firearms owners and does it in public !!!So who's up for the guarantee, Harper? Justine? mulcair?
 
Oh yes, all the folks on here that are liberal or ndp for reason like they can't stand Harper,, please keep speaking up for your sport/privilege (I wish it was our right) you do need to change them from the inside!
 
bobdbldr said:
Ok so Our plan should be to all join the Liberal Party (spits 3 times on ground) and create change from the inside by protesting bad and voting for good firearms bills and changing their mantra from the inside. Harper is playing both sides a bit too, he didn't kibosh the lgr in Quebec so there is a start for a comeback or provincial registry! he could have gone so much farther but stopped short, there was so much more that would have helped our cause. For me I will vote for whoever will guarantee to further the cause of firearms owners and does it in public !!!So who's up for the guarantee, Harper? Justine? mulcair?
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Completely agree. Harper while not being anything special and still sucking up to special interest groups, is still the best of four pretty lousy choices. We need to change our country to a republic instead of this colonial abortion we have now.

My two cents.
 
Every gun owner has to get out and vote!!!!! Apathy will cause all of us to loose our gun rights!!!! Look at what has happened in England and Australia as just 2 examples of what can and will happen if we don't stand together and exercise our right to vote....
 
Can-down said:
I wish these kids could think of some new initiatives moving forward instead of rehashing old ideological based principles.


Let's hear a new vision for making the country stronger and govt smaller along with the tax bill!

The biggest challenge to all parties is the out of control bureaucracy and ever growing govt.... but the conservatives have done nothing to stop that so at this point it's a runaway train or one big dirty snowball how ever you want to see it.
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The CPC has done a LOT.


http://spon.ca/by-2015-harper-will-have-shrunk-government-to-smallest-size-in-50-years/2013/11/19/

TheGlobeandMail.com – news/politics
Nov. 18 2013. Bill Curry

By the time of the 2015 campaign, Conservatives will have shrunk the federal government to its smallest size in over 50 years.

This milestone accomplishment is buried deep in the pile of fiscal numbers released over the past few weeks. As a percentage of the economy, federal taxes are now at their lowest levels in decades.

Government spending is on a similar path and is projected to hit a record low two years from now.

To to the article to read more.
The CPC has accomplished this very stealthily. It goes to show what you can do once you have power, even without making big announcements every day.

Just the same way... the LIberals can like, or pretend, they are doing nothing against gun owners, but enact a river of regulations and restrictions that will gradually make it harder and harder to own or enjoy your firearms even if not a single actual law is changed in parliament.

CPC all the way.
 
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