Been looking at picking up at least one of these mags, I love the fact that they break down for cleaning. Some 22 rounds have way too much wax on them and they gum up the butler creek's with no way to clean them. Anyone have experience with these mags?
HC3R Ruger 10/22 25 round mags
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I have 2 of these and the speed loader, you have to learn the "knack" to getting the rounds to seat properly and then they are great it took me a few attempts to get used to it. Check out youtube there are videos that describe the best way to seat the rounds.
You won't regret the purchase, get the speed loader also.
Cheers
I have 2 of these and the speed loader, you have to learn the "knack" to getting the rounds to seat properly and then they are great it took me a few attempts to get used to it. Check out youtube there are videos that describe the best way to seat the rounds.
You won't regret the purchase, get the speed loader also.
Cheers
I picked up 5 of these mags to test out, ran all of them all once with the mag and refilled them with the stripper, and they seemed to work very solidly. Smart design, the stripper clip and being able to break the mag into two pieces is a smart feature.
Hey, I got two of these a while back, and only got to try them out at the range today. I had endless problems. Continuous fail to feed. Either the round wouldn't come out of the mag at all, or the rim would get caught in the mag, not seat in the chamber, and the bolt would jam the round against the top of the receiver. I watched the various videos about how to align the rounds in the mag, but no joy. It happened a lot more in the first ~10 rounds out of the mag, and towards the last 10 rounds, it seemed to run much better. Any advice to what could be happening?
For reference, rounds ran flawlessly through my 10 round factory mag.
For reference, rounds ran flawlessly through my 10 round factory mag.
Personal experience?
Have two of them, and they're junk jam-o-matics in my 10/22. And before anyone pipes in with the "you have to align" blah blah... Yes, been there, done that, still suck. Better luck with the Butler Creek mags, and drum after drum after drum with zero jams with the GSG rotary mags.
HOWEVER, that's my 10/22... Some people have it the exact opposite way. Jams with the GSG and Butler Creeks, flawless with the HC3R mags.
My "free advice is worth what you paid for it on the internet" is: Buy one, see how it runs in your 10/22. If your rifle likes them, buy more. If it doesn't, try something else until you find a brand your rifle likes, rotate out the ones that don't work by dumping them in the Equipment Exchange to recoup some of your lost, accept the loss as a rental fee for trying them out for as long as you want.
Have two of them, and they're junk jam-o-matics in my 10/22. And before anyone pipes in with the "you have to align" blah blah... Yes, been there, done that, still suck. Better luck with the Butler Creek mags, and drum after drum after drum with zero jams with the GSG rotary mags.
HOWEVER, that's my 10/22... Some people have it the exact opposite way. Jams with the GSG and Butler Creeks, flawless with the HC3R mags.
My "free advice is worth what you paid for it on the internet" is: Buy one, see how it runs in your 10/22. If your rifle likes them, buy more. If it doesn't, try something else until you find a brand your rifle likes, rotate out the ones that don't work by dumping them in the Equipment Exchange to recoup some of your lost, accept the loss as a rental fee for trying them out for as long as you want.
I think that's where I'm at. They just dont like THIS 10/22. I have rewatched several videos of the alignment procedure, and my rounds are aligned the exact same way. Oh well. I had a BC Hot Lips when I first bought the gun, but as everyone knows, it broke after the second time at the range, but it did feed reliably. Thanks for the help everyone, but I think these mags are EE material.
I have only ever used the original 10 round rotary, and an HC3R. Both were a little troublesome with fail to feed issues the first couple times. Both had the same problems when brand new. When the bolt was back, and coming forward to pull a bullet out from the top of either mag, the bullet would go forward, and get caught on the feed lip which should direct it upwards as the bolt pulls it forwards. However, after a couple hundred rounds, both really smoothed out, and I have not had the same issues. But that could be just on MY 10/22.
I personally went with the HC3R over the Butler Creek simply because in person, side by side, the HC3R seemed to be of higher quality, and better design. It was also about $10 difference in price, which I felt was worth it at the time. I wouldn't mind trying out a BC if I could get one for less than MSRP at most local stores to me, but I'd rather divert that money towards stockpiling some ammo, or getting a pistol. But that's just me and my current situation.
I personally went with the HC3R over the Butler Creek simply because in person, side by side, the HC3R seemed to be of higher quality, and better design. It was also about $10 difference in price, which I felt was worth it at the time. I wouldn't mind trying out a BC if I could get one for less than MSRP at most local stores to me, but I'd rather divert that money towards stockpiling some ammo, or getting a pistol. But that's just me and my current situation.
Yup, both did it. It seemed like initially if I was not SUPER careful about getting a slightly nose up orientation on the bullets as I was loading, they would fail to feed pretty much for sure. And even when I was careful, they would jam occasionally. Often on the first round of a fully loaded magazine for both. But on the first session at the range, about 500 rounds went through both the HC3R and the 10 rotary, with at least 75% of that through the HC3R, so let's say 400 or so bullets. And 400 bullets in, the HC3R is hella less prone to fail to feed than it was when brand new. And after 100 or so through the rotary, again, almost no more problems now. In fact at the last shooting session, I got 2 fail to fires because the bullets were defective. I even put one back in, hit it again to see if it was a hammer issue and nope. They were also oddly back to back and the first 2 bullets. After that, I sent another 2+ mags of HC3R, some of it as fast as I could pull the trigger rapid fire, without a single issue. But I am shooting Winchester 333, which I believe is an economy type bullet. And let's say 600 bullets in, 2 loaded but failed to fire (0.5%), at least 5 (~1%) were so softly crimped into the casing they were crooked, and I got maybe 10 (~1.667%) fail to feed issues likely mostly a result of everything being new, and needing some cycling/break in, that occurred mostly within the first 300 rounds.
For example, when I first loaded the HC3R, I'd pull down on the thumb tab, and as I was putting bullets in, about 1-2 rounds down from the feed lips in the metal casting area, the bullets would have enough friction to just hang slightly. They would wobble in place, but would not fall down. Now, the loaded bullets slide up and down a lot more smoothly in that area.
Perhaps some people give up on these aftermarkets before they go through that break in period.
the springs are new can do that they break in just leave it loaded for a few days if it's stiff. The other thing is try some other ammo as some ammo sucks in all magazines I found Winchester was the worse for everything.
This is just a guess, I have no idea if it is the issue, but I used to have problems with a door sill in a car. It was a plastic door sill with a stainless steel flat insert glued into a very shallow recess in the door sill. When it got to -10 or colder, the plastic sill would contract so much more than the steel plate, the steel plate would buckle and detach itself. Basically the significantly higher expansion/contraction rate of plastic compared to the steel caused problems.
I wonder if these plastic mags might be similarly affected? I guess you'll (Marilius) just have to go shooting when it's warmer and find out
I've picked up some different ammo, going to see if it runs better. I know it cant be brand new springs. I bought these mags a few months ago. And loaded them fully and left them in the safe since then, so the springs can't be that stiff anymore.
I'm not sure if that's how springs work. I thought it was the cycling of the springy action that broke them in. Any mechanical engineers know?
