This, exactly. I often comment to anti-hunters that virtually every animal I have ever shot was fortunate, because it died a quicker, more humane death than it ever would have if nature took its course. A few of them (the antis) have actually stopped and thought about it for a bit...that alone is something you don't see too often!
monkey hunting in South America
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This, exactly. I often comment to anti-hunters that virtually every animal I have ever shot was fortunate, because it died a quicker, more humane death than it ever would have if nature took its course. A few of them (the antis) have actually stopped and thought about it for a bit...that alone is something you don't see too often!
Runningfool
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You're not a hunter are you.
First of all, it's hard to get a bullet to the brain with a bow. Second, how humane is it to shoot the lower jaw off an animal that turns it's head at the very last second? Now if you've found a way to keep baboons and eland perfectly still while you sneak up on them and put the muzzle to the back of their head, well then yes, I suppose a bullet to the brain would in fact be better.
What about one those guns like they use in the first preditor movie, it has 5 or 6 barrels and spins , maybe called a mini gun, it can shoot a lot of bullits really fast. It would put a bad hurtin on the Monkeys. Any body know where to get one of those by the way?
I would have shot that deer looking thing again. At least the baboon was semi fast. If a bow can hit a deer or baboon then a head shot won't make a difference if they turn. Aim for closer to the neck and a little higher. If somebody can't shoot 1moa at 40 yards they should hunt
You would, huh? Despite the fact that it had trotted off and tripled or quadrupled the range, compared to the initial shot? Despite the fact that it was standing partially screened by brush, and facing almost straight away, offering nothing to shoot at? Despite the fact that it was dead on its feet, and was obviously going down within a few more seconds? Despite the fact that you just might give it that extra burst of adrenaline that would carry it another 100 yards into the brush, rather than falling within sight?
In other words, despite the fact that you haven't a clue what you're talking about? That shot was perfect...copious hemorrhaging, without even startling the animal badly enough to send it into a mad dash. Ideal archery kill.
Go back to head-shooting zombies.
Ardent
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Unfortunately you just don't understand hunting with a bow very well, take no offence but they are right. A bow kills by bleeding or letting air in above the diaphragm, that's the way it is, so you make your shot and you sit and wait as quietly as you can to avoid spooking the animal further and let it bleed out. If you stick it immediately with another arrow it can run ungodly distances now that you've really spiked it's adrenaline. Many animals will bleed out with quite surprising calm, and not travel far if you're silent and wait. Bows also are never, ever head shot implements, arrows deflect on angled bone surfaces like skulls far too easily. It seems in general your hunting knowledge is limited, so I'd avoid strong opinions just yet, and soak up all you can learn here. Cheers!
And hey how are we on bowhunting Eland from an obscure south american monkey question!
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Looks like someone is too squeamish for hunting!
OR isn't as experienced portrayed.
OR isn't as experienced portrayed.
I hope you were not thinking I would contemplate a head shot with a bow. I know what a field point does to a 2x4 when it goes through too little hay.Unfortunately you just don't understand hunting with a bow very well, take no offence but they are right. A bow kills by bleeding or letting air in above the diaphragm, that's the way it is, so you make your shot and you sit and wait as quietly as you can to avoid spooking the animal further and let it bleed out. If you stick it immediately with another arrow it can run ungodly distances now that you've really spiked it's adrenaline. Many animals will bleed out with quite surprising calm, and not travel far if you're silent and wait. Bows also are never, ever head shot implements, arrows deflect on angled bone surfaces like skulls far too easily. It seems in general your hunting knowledge is limited, so I'd avoid strong opinions just yet, and soak up all you can learn here. Cheers!
And hey how are we on bowhunting Eland from an obscure south american monkey question!
I was wondering why that deer thing.(wtf is that anyways, a wilderbeest) why it didn't run any more. My though on bleeding to death was that it had to hurt a lot. When you get an ice cream headache the blood vessels in your throat constrict from the cold cutting off blood flow to the brain. Knowing that feeling I would have to assume it's similar when a throat is cut, or if there is a major artery severed and instead of blood building up pressure in the artery to get to the brain it would just leak out.
So ye or ney on bleeding to death feeling like an ice cream headache
Ardent
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It's an Eland, largest antelope on earth, the poster of the video mentioned the species. As for how arrows kill, well bleeding is it, and sometimes air in the chest cavity collapsing the lungs. From the reaction of many large game to arrows, not sure if they have headaches or not 
, but they often fall over relatively calmly after a short walk if not amped up by further arrows etc. I can assure you dying isn't comfortable though, and I'm sure there's a great deal of discomfort. The difference between arrowing that Eland a second time and what he did, wait, is just how far the hunter will have to walk. Sticking it again would likely increase how far the Eland went before falling over by a huge factor. Leaving the animal in confused silence at what that one pain is, versus another attack of the same pain, results in a far more mellow reaction and run. Bowhunting is often best describe as "Hurry up and wait.", wait for the shot at the blind / stand, wait after the shot.
, but they often fall over relatively calmly after a short walk if not amped up by further arrows etc. I can assure you dying isn't comfortable though, and I'm sure there's a great deal of discomfort. The difference between arrowing that Eland a second time and what he did, wait, is just how far the hunter will have to walk. Sticking it again would likely increase how far the Eland went before falling over by a huge factor. Leaving the animal in confused silence at what that one pain is, versus another attack of the same pain, results in a far more mellow reaction and run. Bowhunting is often best describe as "Hurry up and wait.", wait for the shot at the blind / stand, wait after the shot.
With no offence intended to anyone here, it often surprises me to hear people with no hunting experience say they prefer the practice of bow hunting "because it is more sporting". People without first hand experience really do not comprehend death though blood loss. Effective, but not pretty.
Runningfool
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Then enlighten usClearly hunting isn't the only area of ignorance for you.
I have the sound turned off on my phone so it will not interrupt work. I didn't hear the sound of the video or if he called the species.
If you never hunted how would you learn? Come to work with me I will tell you how much you suck at fixing elevators and all that you think you know is complete nonsense.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable by asking questions and lurking the forum trying to gain knowledge so that when I get out there I make as few a mistakes as possible. As far as actual hunting I was out twice for groundhogs and once for bear, didn't see anything.
My questions and opinion stem from my little experience on the subject. On yoitube i saw a video where a guy was bow hunting. A (whitetail think it was, I never have the sound on) deer charged him, he cooked the bow and a hit the deer and it dropped dead instantly. The deer had its head down and it got hit in the neck, probably did something to the spinal chord.
My friend uses a crossbow to hunt deer in south ontario. 100 grain broad heads to the lung cavity he says they rarely run for more than a few seconds, I know a.200 pound draw crossbow will do more than a 60 pound draw bolt one is more efficient.
Runningfool
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Google ice cream headache. Then ask yourself if you think having your throat slit would feel like an ice cream headache.
No audio required. The CGNer who posted the video wrote the following, "...reminds me of this Eland video." Post #58, see for yourself.
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Actually I would. I just got my son a nice compound bow I'd like to see the difference.
What grain arrows vs bolts did you use in your test?
