Nxs 5.5-22-56 or ATACR which one ? Pro and con
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Np-r1 and MOAR are similar reticles, I run the NP-R1 on all of my scopes, but my latest which is the new 2.5-10x42mm has the MOAR. I haven't mounted it yet but the floating center crosshair will be awesome for hunting and any precision work in my opinion.
I won't turn back to np-r1 it's MOAR all the way now.
I won't turn back to np-r1 it's MOAR all the way now.
I to have looked thru both a buddy has the np-r1 and once I looked thru it have one ready to mount on a full custom coming at the end of March with interchangeable barrels, 7 stw and 338 edge. the 5-25 x58 ATACR in MOAR should fit the bill for long range. Also the ATACR has their new hd glass noticeably clearer.
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It really does not matter which reticle you prefer as NF has ceased production of the NP-R1 AND NP-R2, so the choices are MOAR or MIL
The ATACR has HD glass which IS clearer than what is used in the NXS, it also has more built in elevation adjustment, 120 MOA versus 100.
The kicker is 1/2 " LESS eye relief than the NXS has. Not a big deal on a tame caliber, but something to note if the plan is to mount it on a boomer.
The ATACR has HD glass which IS clearer than what is used in the NXS, it also has more built in elevation adjustment, 120 MOA versus 100.
The kicker is 1/2 " LESS eye relief than the NXS has. Not a big deal on a tame caliber, but something to note if the plan is to mount it on a boomer.
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I had the same question for Rick last week and he also pointed out the thicker reticle on the ATACR. Maybe waiting for a finer version to come out... They released a MOAR-T reticle to address these concerns, hopefully they will follow suit with the ATACR.
I would love to get my hands on an ATACR Mil-T
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I have both and the ATACR is much nicer and I prefer the MOAR over the NPR1 as it's thicker but easier to pick up and the floating crosshair is a beauty.
Sounds like the reticle choice is gone now, so it will come down to the better glass and more $$ for the ATACR or the standard NXS for a bit less.
Sounds like the reticle choice is gone now, so it will come down to the better glass and more $$ for the ATACR or the standard NXS for a bit less.
Rick, you guys are putting together a 338 improved for me. I was thinking ATACR but you make a good point about eye relief. The extra 20MOA and better glass sounded like a plus for as far as I hope to shoot the gun. Do you think I'd be better served with the NXS in this application?
How long would it take to bring in either with the MOAR T reticle?
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I will be able to give you first hand thoughts shortly. I have been awaiting an ATACR to come in that is destined to replace the SB on my own 338LAI.
I am also holding on to my 8x32 NXS just in case I find the eye relief to short on the ATACR.
Dustin has an ATACR on his 308 , I have shot it some and not found an issue, but the amount of movement that a rifle chambered in 338 LAI has is quite a bit more than the 308 generates, so I guess the only answer I have at this instant is we wait a little longer and see.
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No problem we can order 1 for you
Sounds good, will be in touch!
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I need 61 MOA to make 2000 yards. On the plus 40 MOA rail I can zero at 300 and make the 2700 yard mark before needing to hold over.
This will vary slightly from day to day due to differences in environmental factors making changes to trajectory.
I have a NXS 5.5 - 22 X 56 with the NP R1 reticle and its a fine scope. The ATACR offers some advantages but its still a SFP scope so I can't jusitfy the difference in cost to upgrade to an ATACR. Thats just me of crse but for the life of me I don't understand why NF does not offer more scopes in the first focal plane. For that reason I am getting rid of my NF and going to a mil/mil scope in FFP. Not everyone needs it but if they offered a NXS 5.5 -22 in FFP they wouldn't keep them on the shelves. They praise the advantages in the info about the BEAST but does not offer the ATACR in FFP. Slightly off topic but why they offer a spotting scope w/o a reticle is another one that I don't get.
Doesn't the ATACR have ED glass? Is that the same as HD? Anyways, I had a NXS 5.5-22x56mm MOAR on my .338 Lapua Improved, switched it out for the ATACR MOAR. I have to say, looking through the NXS will never be the same from that point on.
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Simple answer on the FFP thing. When you sell well over 100 to 1 more second focal plane scopes per year why would you produce a bunch of FFPs that will be a much harder to sell commodity.
At SHOT this year we asked the Vortex guys why they went FFP in their new Razor HD line when second focal plane scopes are the 1s that sell the most? There answer was a rather blank look, so hopefully they will start to produce that line of scope in second focal plane as well.
On the spotting scope from NF , quite a few of us dealers have asked the same question. I think NF may at some point in the not too distant future offer the spotter with a reticle. It WOULD make sense!
I've never met someone that actually knows how to use an FFP scope, and has shot under time stress (as military shooters often need to) that prefers SFP. The only people that do are ones that only do deliberate type shooting or shooting at known distances. That is probably the majority of recreational shooters (especially in Canada where we only have KD ranges). SPF works fine when you have all the time in the world to think about your MOA math and dial in your turrets. But, under stress, when you're in a hurry, it falls apart. SFP is piss poor for quick engagements at unknown distances. The US learned that in Iraq, and that's why all of their new sniper and DMR systems are now outfitted with FFP optics. All of those guys on roof tops and in towers protecting bases and sensitive installations... well, they didn't have time to sip their coffee, scratch their butt and muck with their scope settings when a militants popped up to fire his RPG at their buddies. Military contracts: that's why Vortex and Nightforce designed their new tactical scopes in FFP. It's what militaries wants, and for good reason. You won't see SPF in any of the unknown distance tactical matches down in the US that simulate real world conditions either. All of the SFP guys upgraded their optics to FFP because they got tired of coming in dead last, which is what happens with SFP when you aren't being spoon fed your targetry or given copious amounts of time to do your math and make all of your adjustments.
Really, there is no reason to offer tactical scopes in SFP. The way people most use SFP scopes, few of the features are necessary. Most would be fine with simple target turrets and a duplex reticle since they aren't even using their reticle for ranging.
Really, there is no reason to offer tactical scopes in SFP. The way people most use SFP scopes, few of the features are necessary. Most would be fine with simple target turrets and a duplex reticle since they aren't even using their reticle for ranging.
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I agree, but with 90 plus percent of the guys on the forum and even in the shooting world NOT being military personnel in hot zones FFP is simpler and more effective.
We asked NF what percent of their scope sales were to the military, they would not confirm an exact number but agrred it was LESS than 10% of their total sales. I suspect this would hold true for 99% of the other scope makers with possibly the exception of SB.
How much sense does it make asking them to change something so that people can use it for something other than its intended purpose, when there are plenty of options already available? If you want to run your scope like a target scope, then buy a target scope. Lots of them out there that are far better suited to deliberate style recreational target shooting than a tactical scope is.
If you want a tactical scope, buy it in its true form, with all the capabilities it has to offer, and learn to use them.
If you want a tactical scope, buy it in its true form, with all the capabilities it has to offer, and learn to use them.
