Why doesn't someone make a floor plate adapter for a 7.62 M98 that takes a 20rd mag that's modeled after the AIA but stamped Mauser Model 98? Kind of like the trench magazine that Corwin Arms is except two-piece. Or make it for the M96 and stamp it 6.5x55, I think 7.62 should feed in a 6.5 mag.
Magazine Heaven - 20 rds in an M1A
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Mind officially blown.
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the AIA mags are for a M10 rifle. that rifle has a magazine designed for a .308 round. the Enfield is a different gun. that has a magazine designed for a 303.
unless the FRT for the AIA rifle calls it a Variant, the RCMP can go fuk themselves
unless the FRT for the AIA rifle calls it a Variant, the RCMP can go fuk themselves
It does....
But... it isn't one... it just looks like one.
Ask what a variant is. Then ask is it commonly known as an Enfeild why is the case AIA M10? They don't know how to answer the questions. What is differen't is the bolt, trigger, way they attach the barrel, stock, caliber, magazine, magazine well, trigger parts. There is 0 parts that will fit on a Lee enfield rifle on the AIA rifle. 0... They look the same but they're not.
Lets be realistic here guys. I think you would be hard pressed to say the AIA Enfield rifle isn't a variant of the "Lee-Enfield" referred to in the Criminal Code. Would you honestly stake jail time on the line infront of a judge saying this? That said, the wording of the criminal code is very vague.
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What law says that a variant is a lee enfield rifle. I would be willing to do it. What law says that a variant of a lee enfield rifle matters. It's not the same thing. The trigger, Bolt, Stock, Magwell, Barrel, Way they attach the barrel, Receiver are differen't. Everything is sort of like it but not the same as they did it a differen't way.
It's a 308 win.
Lee enfield is 303 british
They're not the same rifle as Canada owns the patent for the Lee enfield rifle (so they can make them in case of war) The military openly said it's not a copy and we won't be going after them for patent infrinment because it's not the same rifle it just looks like it. I looked into all the little details got the information from the manfacture directly called around asking people about it ect I have the blue prints for the Lee enfeild rifle and side by side they're clearly not the same once you take it apart. (They made the M10 with a half #### ect as well)
i am so confused here...
Because it is considered some kind of... variant to the Enfield, it has a mag limit of 10, but it's a bolt action, and it shouldn't HAVE a limit to begin with...
has anyone even tried to makeone of those fabled full auto lee enfield mechanims... but on AIA guns?
Still, its 10 rounds.
but it is rather pricey... 75$/mag is something.
Here's to hoping the price will go down.
Because it is considered some kind of... variant to the Enfield, it has a mag limit of 10, but it's a bolt action, and it shouldn't HAVE a limit to begin with...
has anyone even tried to makeone of those fabled full auto lee enfield mechanims... but on AIA guns?
Still, its 10 rounds.
but it is rather pricey... 75$/mag is something.
Here's to hoping the price will go down.
It's called a trench mag and I think corwin arms has them forsale. Totally legal for a bolt action rifle..
It was for the 8x57IS cartridge and it attached to the trigger guard assembly tha same way as the floor plate. They require fitting to the rifle.
http://www.corwin-arms.com/product/mauser-98-trench-magazine
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So . . . when can I buy one?
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1046451-AIA-Enfield-mags-Here-in-2014
right from the source. so WTF are you all talking about in reference to 10 round mags?
Not at all convinced that's what the regs mean. NR is speaking with their legal advisors to get a more definitive answer.
My take: Paragraph (2)(a)(ii) does NOT mean magazines for Enfield’s are limited to 10 rounds. The regs http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html#docCont say:
Prohibited devices include:
o 3. (1) Any cartridge magazine
(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in
(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,
(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,
(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,
(iv) the firearms of the designs commonly known as the Ingram M10 and M11 pistols, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Cobray M10 and M11 pistols, the RPB M10, M11 and SM11 pistols and the SWD M10, M11, SM10 and SM11 pistols,
(v) the firearm of the design commonly known as the Partisan Avenger Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, or
(vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro-UZI pistol; or
(b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.
o (2) Paragraph (1)(a) does not include any cartridge magazine that
(a) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that
(i) is chambered for, or designed to use, rimfire cartridges,
(ii) is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle, where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed, or
(iii) is commonly known as the U.S. Rifle M1 (Garand) including the Beretta M1 Garand rifle, the Breda M1 Garand rifle and the Springfield Armoury M1 Garand rifle;
Paragraph (2) is therefore a relieving provision which says which magazines are excluded from the general rules in 3(1) of what constitute prohibited magazines. The inclusion of the specific Enfield magazines in (2)(a)(ii) and the Garand 8 rounder in (2)(a)(iii) is a special extra rule which exempts them from being prohibited.
So, we fall back on the general rule that a magazine made specifically for a bolt action rifle is NOT limited by the 5 round rule. Unless there is an RCMP interpretation that the Enfield magazines have been made to fit a semi-auto, 20 rounders should be good to go. Of course, I only play a legal analyst in the interwebs. YMMV.
10 rounders would be a big step up. 20 rounders would be bliss.
I don't believe the bolt action 1903 Springfield rifles with the Pedersen device were ever made into full autos but if not I don't think it would have been that difficult. The bolt gun was already converted to semi-auto so the jump to full auto should not have been an insurmountable problem. I saw a 1903 complete with the device, mags and ammo at the Las Vegas gun show last year. Extremely cool and I believe the mags held 40 rounds so there was lots of firepower.
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I really wish you'd stop posting stuff that is pretty much utter BS. EVERY single post.
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I really wish you'd stop posting stuff that is pretty much utter BS. EVERY single post.
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Yes I know. I was just thinking it would be possible to make a magwell that would replace the floorplate and accept AIA style magazines. But after looking at the M98 trigger guard and AIA mag together, there's no way it would work. The AIA mag is too wide.
What prevented it from exploding? Rifle rounds and blowback don't usually go hand in hand. You would need a little more than piano wire to keep the breech locked closed until pressures has reduced.
Unless this is what you are talking about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Automatic_Rifle
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The Lee-Enfield is exempt, by name, from the daft mag capacity law. No more than 10 though. You cannot have a cf rifle magazine that holds more than 5 unless it has been pinned or has been specifically declared legal. Read the FA.
