Cycling problems with M305/m14s

[MauserMike]

I can't remember JNA, were you at the clinic that I hosted at EESA? I seem to remember somebody talking about having cycling problems but didn't have ammo and didn't shoot the rifle at the clinic.

I assume that your action is moving freely? If you take the recoil spring out, it should literally just slide back and forth with less than a finger's worth of strength. If that is the case, from what I am reading it can only be a gas problem.

As said, the piston should move slowly, say one second to fall down when you tip the rifle back. That ensures you've got a good seal.

I'm surprised you didn't return the rifle. My Norc M-14 has always cycled flawlessly. Since the clinic its accurate now too!

 

[JNA]

I can't remember JNA, were you at the clinic that I hosted at EESA? I seem to remember somebody talking about having cycling problems but didn't have ammo and didn't shoot the rifle at the clinic.

I assume that your action is moving freely? If you take the recoil spring out, it should literally just slide back and forth with less than a finger's worth of strength. If that is the case, from what I am reading it can only be a gas problem.

As said, the piston should move slowly, say one second to fall down when you tip the rifle back. That ensures you've got a good seal.

I'm surprised you didn't return the rifle. My Norc M-14 has always cycled flawlessly. Since the clinic its accurate now too!

I was not at EESA, but I was at the Tac-ord one. The action is moving freely if the recoil spring is taken out.

Didnt return the rifle as my rifles are not with me due to family being anti-gun. Im not blaming the system just my luck of making things not work when they should.

I also bought this rifle to be a project gun to tinker with, but I would like to finally get it working.

 

[Thenooblord]

Didnt return the rifle as my rifles are not with me due to family being anti-gun.

I would be fixing THIS problem, not my M14.
This seems much more important.

 

[JNA]

I would be fixing THIS problem, not my M14.
This seems much more important.

Family left the war-zone of Jugoslavija and aren't happy with my interest in firearms or military related equipment and request i respect their house and not bring my tools home. But moving out next year so then they will be mine.

 

[RifleDude]

Did you try to insert a 5/64 drill bit from the bottom of the gas cylinder into the barrel as I suggested here before? If it does go all the way into the barrel, at least you can eliminate the gas porting as a problem. Good luck!

 

[JNA]

Did you try to insert a 5/64 drill bit from the bottom of the gas cylinder into the barrel as I suggested here before? If it does go all the way into the barrel, at least you can eliminate the gas porting as a problem. Good luck!

I have not tried that yet. Will see if I can next time i get my hands on the rifle.

 

[RememberTheSomme]

Family left the war-zone of Jugoslavija and aren't happy with my interest in firearms or military related equipment and request i respect their house and not bring my tools home. But moving out next year so then they will be mine.

You have to respect others opinions, especially those of your family. Get them out to the range if you can and maybe they'll enjoy the sport as well after time. It may take a bit, only people who have lived through war and strife as an unharmed civilian can truly understand the fear and helplessness of conflict.

Wish I had your rifle out to the range for a bit. There is only a few things it can be. Most of these rifles, mine included function 100% with any ammo except for one thing...........

............when I gave my M-14 to two different left handed shooters, there was one stoppage each time. Reason,...... they were riding the op rod with their support hand thumb hard. This is one inherent weakness if you could call it that having a large surface of your operating parts exposed to external drag. Doesn't take alot of drag if it's over the action cycle range to kill the extraction energy. There is no abnormal drag over the trigger group to #### the action is there? How hard is it to pull the action rearward to #### the rifle compared to pulling the action rearward over an already cocked rifle? Mine has always dragged a bit between the op rod guide and underside of barrel (see park wear)at the very end of cycling stroke due to a slightly over tightened barrel. No problems unless something else drags the whole way.

Good luck, it will get figured out. Would be nice if you even had another rifle to compare side by side.

Things can get cumulative in a hurry, hence what happens if someone rides the op rod with their support hand on mine.

 

[LordEvilPepper]

The problem still exists. The only other thing i notice is that i find it very hard to cycle the bolt after I have shot the rifle and it has not ejected. Im not exactly sure what it could be,

thats often a bent or binding op rod (i have seen a few now with this issue from factory)

or its chamber issue. hows the brass look afterwards? is it bulged and misformed? split? any separation?

 

[JNA]

thats often a bent or binding op rod (i have seen a few now with this issue from factory)

or its chamber issue. hows the brass look afterwards? is it bulged and misformed? split? any separation?

Sorry for the delay, but I am still waiting on the national match gas system. I dont use brass too often, but it didnt seem to bulge or misform. The steel looks fine as well.