Standard Arms Model M Pump in .35 Rem Pics Up!

[Smitsauce]

Hello,

I just picked up one of these neat rifles from another memeber on here. Very interesting rifles with the intricate brass pump handle and butt plate. I am trying to take it down for cleaning, but don't know how to get the bolt and slides out. I have an idea that the nut on the front of the pump slide tube has something to do with it? The only way that I can see to get the bolt and slides out is by taking off the front support for the pump slide. There are two markings on the nut. One has an L beside it. I would think that L means locked and I should turn it to the other one for removal, but how does the front piece come off? Does it twist or pull straight off? I have it soaking with Kroil now. I see that there are index markings on the front of the support that line up with a mark on the barrel for reinstallation.

Any help would be appreciated.

I have now cleaned it all except I still can't get the bolt out to clean it up. It is all matching with serial # 1150. From what I have read it is most likely one of the originals that were made in the factory between 1909 and 1912. Apparently, from the John Henwood book on the Remington Model 8 and 81, there were only about 1,600 Model M's ever made. The bore is good with some light pitting throughout but the rifling looks nice and it should shoot well enough in the deer woods with my favourite cartridge the .35 Remington!

I figured I would do a full pictoral as there isn't much information or pictures of these around.

Cheers,

Ian

 

[Mike Webb]

Is that the model that functioned as a pump or semi-automatic?

 

[Smitsauce]

Is that the model that functioned as a pump or semi-automatic?

No, this is just the pump version M for manual. The gas/pump version was the model G for Gas.

Cool guns. Kinda gaudy with that ornate brass pump and butt plate, but interesting and really rare. There were only supposed to be about 12,000 ever made between 1909 and 1914ish. Mine was most likely made in the original factory in 1909 or 1910 as it has a serial number of 1150.

Ian

 

[Mike Webb]

I've only seen one in person. They are pretty ornate. For a rare gun they don't seem to command a high price. There have been a few for sale on the EE and the price seems to drop a lot before selling. Post a few pics if you can.

 

[polkey]

I had one of the g's a few years ago, if Its anyway the same I remember there was a hole behind the triggerguard that u needed to use a long punch to depress a catch inside and the receiver would come apart in 2 pieces.

 

[Smitsauce]

I had one of the g's a few years ago, if Its anyway the same I remember there was a hole behind the triggerguard that u needed to use a long punch to depress a catch inside and the receiver would come apart in 2 pieces.

Yes, it is the same to take down the two halves, but I can't figure out how to take out the bolt and slides and what the nut is for on the front of the pump hanger.

Ian

 

[Smitsauce]

There must be someone out there that has one of these other than me that can tell me how to take out the bolt!!!???

Ian

 

[Smitsauce]

Pics up!

 

[wjt]

Neat rifle.

The front screw looks like it's already in the unlocked position. Looks like you need something like an old rollerskate key or clock key to turn it. And, do you just turn it or turn it and tap it out.
No help from the previous owner ?

 

[Smitsauce]

I tried tapping it out and it didn't budge either way. The previous owner never had it apart other than just the basic take-down as well.


Ian

 

[polkey]

I believe you have to tap the whole assembly forward along the barrel once you turn that little nut in the unlocked position.

 

[Smitsauce]

I believe you have to tap the whole assembly forward along the barrel once you turn that little nut in the unlocked position.

I initially thought that too but I am thinking now that it may have to be just rotated. There isn't anywhere to hit it with a punch to get it to go forwards. There are old teeth marks on it from someone trying to get it off a long time ago. It looks like it hasn't been apart for a very long time and I really want to know what to do so that I don't bugger it up.

If anyone has any information on getting one of these apart to get the bolt out, I would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Ian