QBS 09 Shotgun

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O and also if it could come with a standard pic rail instead of that Chinese proprietary one.
 
Neat looking... Would consider it if it weren't supporting China... I try to funnel as little cash to them as possible.
 
O and also if it could come with a standard pic rail instead of that Chinese proprietary one.

With a rail adapter it'll sit as low as if it came with a standard picitinny rail. Having the proprietary rail allows you the option of using both if people start importing their scopes. Their scopes isn't bad at all if the 3x one I have is any indication, and with Type 97s in Canada I wouldn't be surprised if affordable military-grade optics start coming in.

Neat looking... Would consider it if it weren't supporting China... I try to funnel as little cash to them as possible.

The computer that you used to type that sentence? Unless you built it yourself, yep, you guessed it. Made in China. That keyboard, mouse, etc? Same thing, made in China. Not only will buying this not matter, Taiwan and South Korea were also dictatorships until the 80's. I don't see anyone complaining about Made in Korea or Made in Taiwan back then.
 
Name another tactical semi auto shotgun with the same features for less.....

^This

I'll take one for $1199, assuming it's in original military config, proprietary rails and everything. Down the road it'll worth way more to collectors like how the Soviet SVD or Vietnam-era AR-15's are in the States. Hatsan MPA's nice, but it's not a standard issue firearm for a large standing army. Unlike the Hawk Pump (Dominion Arms Grizzly) which was used as a stop-gap breacher but has never been adopted into official service nor given a military designation, the designation QBS-09 stands for "Light, Infantry weapon, Scatter, adopted in 2009". You should definitely see a substantial jump in workmanship and quality from the grizz, without the reliability issues of a non-proprietary cartridge like some T97NSR's.
 
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I agree. If the people making the products are working for pennies in poor conditions, it will reflect on their quality of work.

To be fair, it's way more than what they would've made on the farms. Soviet workers were paid pennies too, but I never hear of any quality problems with the AK :p
 
You guys are hilarious.

You went from $500 to $1200 in the blink of an eye...

God the retailers on here REALLY have it easy.... few more posts and someone will announce that an FRT's been issued and pre-orders - at the low low price of just $1799 - are now open!
 
Can't wait till Battlefield 5 is released...BF4 already cost me a an HK45C, and now maybe one of these.

Either of which are better than that broken stinker of a game :)
 
Can't wait till Battlefield 5 is released...BF4 already cost me a an HK45C, and now maybe one of these.

Either of which are better than that broken stinker of a game :)

Ya I know, It took me a couple of years to finally afford a good system so I can play the frigging game. So I went high end (my version of high end) good card 8 core processor, mb that will take 32gigs of ram, etc etc.

Install the game, it worked sort of on high settings and I was happy for months.

Then with the last update it's back to being slow and crashes.

POS!!!
 
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