Interesting article on Marlin Firearms in the latest issue of RIFLE mag.

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I just started reading my latest download of Rifle, (May, 2014) which has an article by Brian Pearce on Marlin entitled, "WHERE ARE MARLIN’S LEVERGUNS?" I won't quote it all here, but these are the salient bits:

During the fall of 2010, the Marlin Firearms Company was moved from New Haven, Connecticut, to Ilion, New York, where it now shares a portion of the huge building that houses sister companies Remington and H&R 1871. For several reasons, this move has been painful for the company and for shooters. Several popular models have been discontinued, production is way down and overall quality is poor, while repairs and service have been impossible. At a seminar held last October, the company finally admitted the move “was a mistake.” Now, after a costly and extensive CNC retooling, developing new blueprints and adding a new engineering and production staff, Marlin claims it is on the road to recovery…

While quality and accuracy have always kept Marlin lever-action rifles in high demand, in the past couple of decades sales have been especially high, with production always sold out in advance. But all that came to a sudden stop in 2010.

Moving Marlin to Ilion, New York, proved a huge undertaking and cost the company the majority of its valuable employees, perhaps its greatest asset. New guns failed to function, wood to metal fit was poor, and overall quality was down. I obtained two new guns for the purpose of reviewing them in Rifle magazine, but after determining they were unreliable, I chose not to. Other personal guns were sent in for parts replacement but were returned with their timing/function being off, which had to be corrected at home. New Haven-manufactured guns have virtually disappeared from dealers shelves and are currently commanding a premium. On the other hand, New York guns, including those assembled from parts made in Connecticut, are not selling, and only a few select models have been available with the Models 1894, 1895 and others being out of production.

At the 2013 writers seminar, the company admitted that sample guns displayed at trade shows and on industry shoots were carefully chosen and were of New Haven manufacture to make certain they looked good and worked reliably!

With that said, the company has spent considerable resources retooling with CNC equipment, and engineers have been busy blue printing. The first production guns are the Model 336 .30-30 WCF. At the seminar I had the opportunity to examine and shoot one of the New York rifles manufactured on new tooling. It was a huge improve-ment over guns produced since the move, as fit and finish were hugely improved and it functioned reliably. Further comment is withheld, however, until a production sample can be obtained, fully disassembled and examined, func-tion checked and the rifle fired for accuracy at my own range.

As these words are written, the Model 1894 (in .357, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt) and Model 1895 .45- 70 are just beginning to be produced. Samples are on the way, which I will soon review, whether good or bad, in these pages.

We've heard similar reports from reports on CGN but it's good to have a respected voice in the firearms media telling it like it is.

:) Stuart
 
Not surprising, but happy to hear things might be improving. I saw some nasty woodwork that made me shy away from a couple levers.
 
I feel blessed that I managed to obtain a pre-rem 1894C before they all dissapeared and the prices doubled. It is probably my favorite rifle.

I've seen a few of the post-rem ones and they weren't comparable, as everyone knows.

That being said, I have always wished that they got their #### together and started making quality firearms again, as they had a few new models that were catching my attention which dissapeared due to the quality/production problems.

Maybe it's finally becoming a reality after half a decade.
 
...That being said, I have always wished that they got their #### together and started making quality firearms again, as they had a few new models that were catching my attention which dissapeared due to the quality/production problems.....

Pearce also mentioned the demise of the Savage 1899 and the Winchester 94- one of the most iconic rifles ever produced. They are now made for Winchester in Japan - an ironic situation for THE quintessentially American rifle - and he feels they're not as good as the old ones. And the prices are astronomical, again totally at odds for a rifle that was the "bread and butter" gun for the average hunter for so many decades.

I also have a pre-Remlington 1894 (and 1895) and it's very nice indeed. My next-door neighbour got a slightly-used newer one a couple of years ago and while it functions OK, the wood is crap and the fit and finish very disappointing.
 
Good to hear that new production is ramping up. I'm looking for a 1894C or CSS but by the time sufficient reviews have been published I'll likely have opted for something else. Prices will have to be VERY appealing before people will be willing to take the chance. If I could use my .444 for cowboy action, I'd just forget buying another lever all together.
 
I bought a new 1895SBL last autumn which has a REP barrel code of the left hand side with the letters PH indicating it was made in June 2013, however the barrel also says THE MARLIN FIREARMS CO. NORTH HAVEN CT USA. I am not sure why this is since on GBL's I have seen the location as ILLION NY. Ii would be interesting to know what the barrel markings are on recent Marlin ever actions bought. I should state that the SBL I bought has no quality control issues and is better in that regard than a couple of pre Remlin Guide guns I have owned.
 
Pearce also mentioned the demise of the Savage 1899 and the Winchester 94- one of the most iconic rifles ever produced. They are now made for Winchester in Japan - an ironic situation for THE quintessentially American rifle - and he feels they're not as good as the old ones.

Having owned both American made Winchester 94s, and Japanese made 94s, the fit and finish of the Japanese made guns is superior to the American made guns.
 
I've got a JM stamped 336 in 35 Rem that I doubt very much I'll ever part with.

It truly is a shame that it's come to this point.
 
Having owned both American made Winchester 94s, and Japanese made 94s, the fit and finish of the Japanese made guns is superior to the American made guns.

This is good to hear. Although I don't own one, I was under the impression that the Miroku-made guns were in fact very good and I was surprised to see that Pearce thought they were not up to snuff. Here's his quote:

...Then in 2005 Winchester/ USRAC closed its historical New Haven, Connecticut, plant, which appears to have marked the end of U.S. manufacture of what was proba- bly the most popular sporting rifle ever, the Model 1894/94. Although this rifle is now manufactured in Japan in limited quantities, it does not offer the same quality and function as vintage originals...

:) Stuart
 
I would love to get a 1894C in .357. I have looked and now I know the reason why they are unobtainable. My only other lever is a Winchester 9422M. I love it and will never part with it.

I wish Marlin would reintroduce the 1894M .22 WMR. Hopefully they will come good again!
 
This is good to hear. Although I don't own one, I was under the impression that the Miroku-made guns were in fact very good and I was surprised to see that Pearce thought they were not up to snuff. Here's his quote:



:) Stuart

Miroku produces very good quality for the price. I did own a Miroku made 1892, and I currently own two early 80s Winchesters, and although my current Winchesters seem to have better fit and finish than some of the later rifles, they are a far cry from the Miroku made rifles. Even when comparing the Miroku made rifles to some pre 64s, the Miroku rifles still had superior fit and finish.
 
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I though I'd put in my 2 cents to this conversation. I am a Marlin guy. Not that I don't use anything else but Marlin is just what I prefer as I hunt mostly in the bush. It's rare that I shoot at anything more than a 100yrds. For this reason I love Marlin rifles. I was lucky enough to get a 308 (ME) NH Conn. made rifle. It's my new favorite of my bunch. I've been using it for 5 years and it's never let me down. And just a couple of weeks ago I was lucky enough to buy a 1957 32 special from a friend of mine. It's in great shape and I look forward to seeing how it would perform.
 
Two things really bug me about this and I'm not sure I can get over it.

How they treated valued employees (families)...

Moving Marlin to Ilion, New York, proved a huge undertaking and cost the company the majority of its valuable employees, perhaps its greatest asset. New guns failed to function, wood to metal fit was poor, and overall quality was down.

The companies deception...

At the 2013 writers seminar, the company admitted that sample guns displayed at trade shows and on industry shoots were carefully chosen and were of New Haven manufacture to make certain they looked good and worked reliably!
 
We've heard similar reports from reports on CGN but it's good to have a respected voice in the firearms media telling it like it is.

:) Stuart

Well look at this:

I obtained two new guns for the purpose of reviewing them in Rifle magazine, but after determining they were unreliable, I chose not to.

He SHOULD have reviewed them and printed exactly what he found.
 
The article is full of inaccuracies. The Marlin 1895 SBL has already been retooled and production started up around Sep 2013. This is confirmed by Marlin themselves when I called them.
 
The article is full of inaccuracies. The Marlin 1895 SBL has already been retooled and production started up around Sep 2013. This is confirmed by Marlin themselves when I called them.

Given the lead times magazines require for copy, it's quite possible that Pearce's comments reflected the situation several months prior to publication. And (re 1899s comment) I wouldn't be surprised that he did at least let Remlin know what he thought even if he didn't print the results. Management can't have been oblivious to all the negative press they've been getting, so if they've now pulled up their socks, that's good news for everyone. :)
 
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