Not all psp actually say psp on the slide.
But yours is a psp and looks like a police surplus one.
HK P7 M8 New/Used price?
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But yours is a psp and looks like a police surplus one.
I wish I had your luck. I've seen one (psp) in well use condition for 1200 or so and another in very good condition with Nill grips for 1400. In the fall I saw several in great shape listed for 1600 to 1800.
If you can find one for cheap, great, but I really don't think 1200 for one in very good shape is the norm.
Here is p7m8 for sale.. (scroll down)
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1052265-Bunch-of-Very-Nice-Rare-Pistols-for-Sale
Although its very hard to believe that its unfired. In my experience those lines on the side of the cocking pedal appear after 1000+ rounds... Correct me if im wrong.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1052265-Bunch-of-Very-Nice-Rare-Pistols-for-Sale
Although its very hard to believe that its unfired. In my experience those lines on the side of the cocking pedal appear after 1000+ rounds... Correct me if im wrong.
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yes
i have no clue what model is it
what's PSP stands for?
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answer my own question: PSP stands for police self-loading pistol
You have had your question answered multiple times.
The one you paid $1700 for is a p7psp, most likely a police surplus one.
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The pistol in that photo that is marked "Mod. PSP" on slide is a prototype. It's completely different in configuration and markings from the P7 PSP production pistols. The production guns were marked "P7" on the grips. There was a small run of 500 to 600 P7s that were also marked "PSP" on slide to commemorate the end of production in 1997. Except those none of the production guns were ever marked as "PSP", just "P7".
1200 for a psp police surplus is the very high end of the norm.
There have been at least 4 sold on here since Christmas for less than $1100.
There was one for less than $1000 just before Christmas.
Like ghostie said they sold for just over $800 a couple years back.
The photo where it says "PSP" on the slide... that is a photo from HKPro, and... as Elecktrobug is saying... that is an impossibly rare prototype that is probably in a museum somewhere or in HK's own collection.
I did this photo a few years back about some of the basic differences between the P7 "PSP" and the P7M8:
The other big difference, the P7 requires a little special "fork" tool to push into the back and turn a quarter turn to the right (with the squeezecocker depressed about half way, until the back of the firing pin is level with the back of slide) to get the firing pin assembly out. The P7M8/M13/M10 all use a very similiar system, but you can do it with just your fingers. M8 is on the right:
This is that same "Commercial" (not issued to a police force) PSP seen in the above photo. I paid $1,500 for this about 4-5 years ago. It is way more rare and desirable for collecting than a worn finish police surplus gun. Police surplus guns are fine for shooting, but the price paid was pretty high... yah.
I did this photo a few years back about some of the basic differences between the P7 "PSP" and the P7M8:
The other big difference, the P7 requires a little special "fork" tool to push into the back and turn a quarter turn to the right (with the squeezecocker depressed about half way, until the back of the firing pin is level with the back of slide) to get the firing pin assembly out. The P7M8/M13/M10 all use a very similiar system, but you can do it with just your fingers. M8 is on the right:
This is that same "Commercial" (not issued to a police force) PSP seen in the above photo. I paid $1,500 for this about 4-5 years ago. It is way more rare and desirable for collecting than a worn finish police surplus gun. Police surplus guns are fine for shooting, but the price paid was pretty high... yah.
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The thing everyone seems to be dancing around is SFRC's price: $1500 for new in the box P7M8. Plus tax and shipping, of course, but that would set the new upper limit for this pistol for the moment. Supply and demand (or short attention span and HK lust) will settle out the price later, but it seems without selling one pistol yet, SFRC's $1500 brand new in the box for the P7M8 is kind of hard to ignore. It's too bad if you paid more, and I'm sure there are plenty of guys here who will help you out if you want to pay THEM more.
For the collectable HK stuff I of course bow to Ghostie's superior knowledge and experience.
For the collectable HK stuff I of course bow to Ghostie's superior knowledge and experience.
After Elektrobug... the encyclopedia of all things P7... I would probably look to you for info!!
I just recommended that someone talk to you earlier tonight about a possible issue with classification of a P7, as I know you have gone through that a few times.If there ever are any NIB pistols at $1,500, it will change the market... for awhile... and it will be quite awhile if it ends up being something like 100 pistols.
When ArmsEAST brought in the police PSP guns in 2007, that dropped the market down for awhile, and got a lot more people into it.
When ArmTAC brought in their PSP's, including those chrome ones, that also controlled prices for awhile.
When ArmTAC brought in those 20 P7M13's from Belgium (and sold them originally for $999) that definiately affected the M13 market. Those guns are now selling in the $1,600-$1,800 range... and there is still a demand bubble on extra M13 mags (or M10 mags... going for $250 each these days).
All I've ever really said about this new shippment is... "They'll either be cheap ($1,500), or new-in-box. I can't see them being both." Maybe I'll be proven wrong, and if that is the case, I'll be one of the happy ones, as my name has been on the list since day 1 (more like "hour one").
These (P7's) are some of the most intensely and obsessively collected pistols in the history of firearms. The prices for them are fairly well established, and continue to rise... even when more are imported... the supply always drys up very quickly, and there are more and more video game guys coming along every year who have a big hard-on for German engineering. It's just like with K98K's, Garands, Pythons, etc. There is never any reduction in demand. Demand continues to rise year after year, along with prices.
Imagine what it would be like if the HK 91/93/94/SP89, etc. didn't all get prohib'd. It would be P7 disease on steriods. German-obsessed Canadian gun guys would be getting second mortgages to try and buy one.
Ah... those damn video games and movies. Turning us all into HK Kool-Aid drinkers.
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Something some of you missing is the mag release.
I sold this gun and did not miss represent it at all.
it is a P7 period, but not a P7 M8
Exc condition police issue which I told the fellow.
Re. the price <I will not go their, he can say what the hell he wants.
Other people at the Saskatoon gun show will know what price I had on that
gun.
I have been in the trade for 30-40 years and never had one fellow come
back and say I did not tell him everything I knew about a gun.
Have lost more than a few sales because I pointed out something about a gun
to some one looking at it.
I don't have to sell any of this stuff anymore, It is more of a hobby now.
Marshall
I sold this gun and did not miss represent it at all.
it is a P7 period, but not a P7 M8
Exc condition police issue which I told the fellow.
Re. the price <I will not go their, he can say what the hell he wants.
Other people at the Saskatoon gun show will know what price I had on that
gun.
I have been in the trade for 30-40 years and never had one fellow come
back and say I did not tell him everything I knew about a gun.
Have lost more than a few sales because I pointed out something about a gun
to some one looking at it.
I don't have to sell any of this stuff anymore, It is more of a hobby now.
Marshall
