Why do people insist rugers are crf?

I was just reading my new petersons and there was review on a ruger guide rifle and the author wrote controlled feeding. I have several rugers and not a one is controlled they are push feed and have a claw extractor. Just because it has a claw extractor doesn't make it a mauser. I don't think people know what controlled feed actually is. Maybe ruger has changed their bolts since all the old tang safeties I've got. I don't know?

The reason they insist all Rugers are CRF is two fold..........1) they are too young to remember when all Rugers were push feeds........2) there are a lot of misinformed people who believe that as soon as they see a long claw extractor that it is a controlled feed action, there is even some who believe that the long claw extractor is what makes it a CRF action.
 
i have never seen the push feed bolt face, its so similar to the crf one that it appears as though you could mod the push to crf?

I've read that milling the bottom lip on the PF would make it a CRF. Never tried or asked a gunsmith but it seems to be the only difference.
 
Why do people call the M77 that came out after original tang safety M77 a MKII ??
I have never seen a M77 marked as a M77 MKII can anyone point me in the right direction?:confused::confused:
 
Because that's what Ruger called them.

As per Wiki:

M77 Mark II

The M77 was retooled almost entirely and reintroduced in 1991 as the Mark II. The safety, bolt, and trigger were completely redesigned. The claw extractor was retained, but the bolt face was opened up to allow controlled-round feeding. The plunger ejector was replaced with a Mauser style blade ejector. Finally, a three-position safety allowed the bolt to be operated while the gun was still on safe, making unloading of the rifle less hazardous. Ruger also eliminated the adjustable trigger that came stock on the original M77.
 
Why do people call the M77 that came out after original tang safety M77 a MKII ??
I have never seen a M77 marked as a M77 MKII can anyone point me in the right direction?:confused::confused:

MK is short for Mark, easier to type 2 letters. Same as people call a Winchester M70. Its stamped model 70 not m70...
 
As requested. The one on the left if MKII PFand the right one is an Hawkeye CRF


I have not seen that bolt face before, is it out of a target model? I wonder how far up the Mk 2 line that style did make it. Goes to show, you learn something new every day.
Ivor
 
L-R M77 (push feed), M77 MkII (CRF), and a Hawkeye (CRF).
RugerBoltFaces01.jpg
 
Both of those are CRF type bolts. The push feed rifle is the original M77 with the tang safety NOT the MKII or Hawkeye.
If you look carefully at the bolt on the left, it has a ring of extra metal at the bitten that would make it impossible to operate as a crf action.
Ivor
 
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