26 Nosler????
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The .26 Nosler is based on the .404 Jeffrey case necked down to accept .264 boolits.
A 120 gr. bullet at 3400fps. which is quicker than the .264 Winchester Magnum and should make
a good "beanfield load". It's not as hot as the Lazzeroni 6.71 Blackbird (120gr. @ 3700fps.) but
it fits 30-06 length actions.
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A 120 gr. bullet at 3400fps. which is quicker than the .264 Winchester Magnum and should make
a good "beanfield load". It's not as hot as the Lazzeroni 6.71 Blackbird (120gr. @ 3700fps.) but
it fits 30-06 length actions.
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Lots of hype over this after shotshow. Where the reality goes is any ones guess. If it is going to replace the 264 Win mag then my question is will it also have the throat erosion, blast, and recoil associated. For my tastes a .264 pill is just not going to be a large enough solution for animals larger than deer at extended distance. Speed and premium bullets can only go so far.
Reminiscent of the rhetoric over the 375 Ruger ?
Hopefully discussion of the 26 Nosler won't involve the same level of insulting and name-calling....
Sometimes new stuff is an improvement (like the 375 Ruger over the H&H) sometimes they do something a bit different (300WSM goes in a short action) Sometimes they just "legitimize" and old wildcat. Sometimes they just make no sense whatsoever (the WSSM's come to mind)
And sometimes it's just a new option for those that may not have the cartridge that it is replacing- FOr instance if you don't have a 264 Winchester but maybe wanted something similar, the 26 Nosler may be an option for you. Like when the 300WSM came out, my opinion was that if you have a 300WM that you liked, no need to get a WSM unless you want one.
Since we haven't seen a mainstream 6.5 "magnum" size cartridge introduced in some time, it's pretty interesting, I think. Of course, there are those that just hate anything new.
I like them all- I use cartridges that were introduced 140 years ago, newish ones like the New King and everything in between.
With the current long range shooting trend, I think the 26 Nosler might be a good seller, but it's hard to say. Many new cartridge introductions in the last decade have not been great sellers, but it's usually easy to spot who the winners will be- they have to have a combination of appeal in caliber, bring something new to the table in regards to case design, and not be redundant to what is already out there - like how the SAUM's were. They were too late to the table after the WSMs got lot's of interest. Remington really dropped the ball on that. Lots of losers but winners like the 300 and 270 WSM and the 375 Ruger are doing really well.
Actually, when you think of it the .26 Nosler has a really good chance due to it's caliber- The 300WSM was a winner because it was a new .308 caliber, while the 270 WSM and 375 Ruger did well as they are the first improvements in older calibers for some time. 6.5's are gaining in popularity and it's a new 6.5 so it may have that rare combo of caliber and case improvement that people seem to be interested in.
And sometimes it's just a new option for those that may not have the cartridge that it is replacing- FOr instance if you don't have a 264 Winchester but maybe wanted something similar, the 26 Nosler may be an option for you. Like when the 300WSM came out, my opinion was that if you have a 300WM that you liked, no need to get a WSM unless you want one.
Since we haven't seen a mainstream 6.5 "magnum" size cartridge introduced in some time, it's pretty interesting, I think. Of course, there are those that just hate anything new.
I like them all- I use cartridges that were introduced 140 years ago, newish ones like the New King and everything in between.
With the current long range shooting trend, I think the 26 Nosler might be a good seller, but it's hard to say. Many new cartridge introductions in the last decade have not been great sellers, but it's usually easy to spot who the winners will be- they have to have a combination of appeal in caliber, bring something new to the table in regards to case design, and not be redundant to what is already out there - like how the SAUM's were. They were too late to the table after the WSMs got lot's of interest. Remington really dropped the ball on that. Lots of losers but winners like the 300 and 270 WSM and the 375 Ruger are doing really well.
Actually, when you think of it the .26 Nosler has a really good chance due to it's caliber- The 300WSM was a winner because it was a new .308 caliber, while the 270 WSM and 375 Ruger did well as they are the first improvements in older calibers for some time. 6.5's are gaining in popularity and it's a new 6.5 so it may have that rare combo of caliber and case improvement that people seem to be interested in.
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To answer your first question....yes, and probably even a bit more throat erosion, blast, etc. A non-issue, since barrels are being made every day. Well cared for, and not shot "hot", the barrel should give at least 2000 rounds of hunting accuracy, a number many hunters will never see in a lifetime.
Your statement regarding the effectiveness of a 6.5mm pill leads me to believe you have never used a 264 Win Mag on Elk or Moose at extended ranges.
I am here to tell you that out to 500 meters, possibly a bit more, the 140 grain Partition kills these big cervids like lightning.
Today we have some very sleek true "hunting" bullets, [NOT VLD target types] that will extend this noticeably.
Regards, Dave.
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Wonder if it will be the "King of the Long Range Cartridges".
It might be...it ain't got a belt.
The .26 Nosler is based on the .404 Jeffrey case necked down to accept .264 boolits.
A 120 gr. bullet at 3400fps. which is quicker than the .264 Winchester Magnum and should make
a good "beanfield load". It's not as hot as the Lazzeroni 6.71 Blackbird (120gr. @ 3700fps.) but
it fits 30-06 length actions.
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I think the 26 Nosler shares the same rim and base measurement as the 375 Ruger of 0.532".
The 404 Jeffery has a rim dia. of 0.543 and base dia. of 0.545" according to my measurements.
Yep Kevan you are correct, but Nosler states that it is a shortened 7 RUM which Remington rebated the rim to .532 to use in standard magnum boltface guns. Please don't let's use the Ruger orphan as a reference, it has been rebated to the normal 375 H&H dia of .532 as has been an industry standard for more than 100 years now for belted mags. Basically it is a 6.5 Dakota with a .532 rim, not new, not terribly exciting, not much better than the 264 WM............end of story. The 264 died because people said it was a barrel burner (hogwash, I say), so what is to be said of the 26 Nosler with more powder capacity than the 264. My 264 WM gets well over 3500 fps from 120s and over 3200 fps with 140s, what is the 26 Nosler going to do beyond this.........equal the 6.5X300 Wby that's been around for 40 or more years. If they really really wanted to do something impressive maybe they should have forgot about shortening the 7 RUM and just necked it down............if you're gonna burn barrels let's do it in style !!!
Well, you know what they say Douglas...... Barrels are made every day !
Not meaning to hi-jack a fine thread here, but I've gone the other way with the 6.5 caliber, I'm having a lot of fun and getting excellent results with a cartridge called the 256 Newton.
Do you old timers remember that one ??
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See...never trust them dang US hunting & shooting sites.
As for the .26 Nosler, I don't wish own one anyway. The 6.5 Swede will do just fine for me.
Yep, you're absolutely correct, especially if they think it'll survive with 2 buck apiece brass, cause it won't. One of the surest ways to make a cartridge popular is to make lots of cheap brass available for it, somehow I don't think Nosler has this capability.
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Jack Robinson
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I don't know if it's true but I heard that Norma is making brass for Nosler and Norma brass is never cheap.
Actually JR, Nosler buys brass from many makers and just sorts and weighs and preps it, I am almost positive their 300 Wby that I bought is Remington, it weighs the same as the avg Rem brass, is the same color and shows exactly the same pressure at the same loads as Rem brass. Norma on the other hand is harder than Rem brass and has it's own distinct pinkish hue to it. Also 375 Ruger from Nosler is just sorted and prepped Horn junk, as Horn is the only maker of the Ruger offerings. You could place a fairly certain bet that their 6.5-284 brass is Norma though as they are the only maker of it except maybe Lapua, not sure, but you can bet Nosler ain't buying Lapua.
