who sells tactical innovations aluminium 10/22 mags?
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wayupnorth
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stay away from them.
i picked up a bunch thinking they would be the best things ever made and they are by far the WORST mags ever.
period.
end of sentence.
i cant even begin to go down the list of all the problems with them but trust me when i say save your money and go buy the tried and true steel lips.
i picked up a bunch thinking they would be the best things ever made and they are by far the WORST mags ever.
period.
end of sentence.
i cant even begin to go down the list of all the problems with them but trust me when i say save your money and go buy the tried and true steel lips.
wayupnorth, if you don't mind posting, I'm curious to know more. Not that I'm an expert, but from my research, the TI mag was/is the most reliable 10/22 aftermarket mag. I probably would have went that route if I could have gotten one locally. Went with the HC3R instead as a result. It's been at least as reliable as the stock 10 round rotary magazine with my 10/22 at least.
wayupnorth
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you know i hate bashing any one company but i have used pretty much everything that TI makes in one of my builds or another and i have yet to get anything from them that is good.
receivers, mags, charging handles all are out of spec and dont run well.
as for the mags specifically i should go make a video on them and show the problems but off the top of my head they dont fit in any of the 5 10/22's i have.
i cant get them to seat properly. and for the one that i can actually jam it into it rocks so bad that it fails to feed properly.
they claim you can adjust them to make them run good in any gun but ive tried adjusting them over and over and over and i have yet to get them to cycle more then one round without failing.
and like i said the worst part is they just dont fit!
i have a 1984, 1991, 2013 and 2 Dlask Custom DARs and i could only get the mags to go into one of the DAR's and that was only after i took a file to it and ripped up all the anodizing off of it right down and into the aluminum.
to be honest i had such high hopes for these mags, they seemed like they would be the best ones ever, all aluminum bodies, fully adjustable, but at the end of the day they are just plain nasty.
the one's i have im hoping that some day ill pick up another 10/22 that they WILL actually work in and i can then recoup some of the $200+ i have invested into them.
im even considering stripping all the anodizing off of them and taking them to a machinist and seeing if he can get them to fit by cutting them down more.
just so much of a pain for something that could have been so good.
in comparison you can pick up a steel lips and slap it into any 10/22 and run 25 rounds through it with no hiccups.
receivers, mags, charging handles all are out of spec and dont run well.
as for the mags specifically i should go make a video on them and show the problems but off the top of my head they dont fit in any of the 5 10/22's i have.
i cant get them to seat properly. and for the one that i can actually jam it into it rocks so bad that it fails to feed properly.
they claim you can adjust them to make them run good in any gun but ive tried adjusting them over and over and over and i have yet to get them to cycle more then one round without failing.
and like i said the worst part is they just dont fit!
i have a 1984, 1991, 2013 and 2 Dlask Custom DARs and i could only get the mags to go into one of the DAR's and that was only after i took a file to it and ripped up all the anodizing off of it right down and into the aluminum.
to be honest i had such high hopes for these mags, they seemed like they would be the best ones ever, all aluminum bodies, fully adjustable, but at the end of the day they are just plain nasty.
the one's i have im hoping that some day ill pick up another 10/22 that they WILL actually work in and i can then recoup some of the $200+ i have invested into them.
im even considering stripping all the anodizing off of them and taking them to a machinist and seeing if he can get them to fit by cutting them down more.
just so much of a pain for something that could have been so good.
in comparison you can pick up a steel lips and slap it into any 10/22 and run 25 rounds through it with no hiccups.
wayupnorth
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you know what ill do tonight if i have time, ill take out my calipers and measure them comparing them to the BX-01 and the Steel Lips and a couple others i have laying around and ill post the results / differences.
I mentioned this in a another 10/22 mag related thread, but with my 10/22, both the factory 10 round rotary mag, and the HC3R had many issues. Primarily, when the bolt would come forward to try to strip a round from the mag, instead of the nose orienting upwards, and sliding forward, it seemed the round would come forward, maybe even tip downward slightly, and then get hung up at the front of the feed lip, instead of sliding up the feed lip.
So the first 3-5 full loads run through both mags had issues. But after about 5 cycles of fully loading, and running through the 10/22, both mags now run pretty flawlessly. I keep a log of every round fired, the ammo, the conditions, where the ammo was bought, when it was bought, how many FTF, FTE, etc. And I could not get through a single mag without at least 1-2 jams per load for the first 3-5 cycles. Since then, it's been less than 0.5%. In fact, hitting 2 "duds" out of a single pack, oddly enough back to back (out of a box of Winchester 333, where the pin left a noticeable dent in the rim, I even cycled and tried hitting it again and still nothing) have been the most notable failures since then.
I even had problems with the ammo not sliding up and down the HC3R with the spring pulled back initially. But I think wax deposition from the ammo, and a combination of light scuffing/abrasion typical of use, in a sense "broke in" the mags.
For those of you that had all these problems, did you eventually get enough rounds through them to get past that break in stage I observed?
So the first 3-5 full loads run through both mags had issues. But after about 5 cycles of fully loading, and running through the 10/22, both mags now run pretty flawlessly. I keep a log of every round fired, the ammo, the conditions, where the ammo was bought, when it was bought, how many FTF, FTE, etc. And I could not get through a single mag without at least 1-2 jams per load for the first 3-5 cycles. Since then, it's been less than 0.5%. In fact, hitting 2 "duds" out of a single pack, oddly enough back to back (out of a box of Winchester 333, where the pin left a noticeable dent in the rim, I even cycled and tried hitting it again and still nothing) have been the most notable failures since then.
I even had problems with the ammo not sliding up and down the HC3R with the spring pulled back initially. But I think wax deposition from the ammo, and a combination of light scuffing/abrasion typical of use, in a sense "broke in" the mags.
For those of you that had all these problems, did you eventually get enough rounds through them to get past that break in stage I observed?
wayupnorth
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ive never had a problem with the steel lips mags or the plastic ones for that matter.
ive got some that are nearing 25 years old and thick with gunpowder grunge that still run flawlessly.
They sure do! I've nearly given up on aftermarket mags, when the factory 10 round mags work so well. I'd like to try a BX-25 just to see, but that's not likely to happen any time soon.
G.Mitchell
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My composite steel lip TI25 mags are fantastic in both of my 10-22 rifles.
wayupnorth
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out of curiosity did you get the black ones or the non anodized ones?
ive been thinking that maybe its a issue of the anodizing being way too thick.
I've only tried the BC steel lips and have had nothing but problems, every third shot I get a failure to eject. The factory 10 round has worked flawlessly. I'd like to try one of the TI mags as well but they're a bit pricey and hard to find, maybe the BX 25 would be a good option since they're readily available.
I tried a BC hot lips 25 and a BC steel lips 25 in my 10/22, both are terrible unless I put a hand on the mag and hold it just so. The stock BX10 work flawlessly.
Because the issue for me could be solved via applied pressure to the mag, I had hoped that the adjustability of the top would be my salvation.
Because the issue for me could be solved via applied pressure to the mag, I had hoped that the adjustability of the top would be my salvation.
wayupnorth
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i spent 2 hours last night playing with my TI mags - this thread reminded me about them sitting in the bottom of my to do box in my shop.
so after 2 hours of playing with the adjustable screws and taking off about 90% of the anodizing on the top part of the mags i finally go them to fit in all my 10/22's nice like and even got 1 of them to fit in my Ruger American Rimfire real nice!
i think the major problem with these is how thick the anodizing is on them.
its also a very course and porous anodizing.
once i sanding it down with 2000 grit wet and then polished it a bit then torqued the set screws all the way down i was able to get them to fit.
now ill do a function test now that i can get them in and see how they function.
Just to keep things balanced, I have 2 TI composite mags and a single clear anodized aluminum one (paid ~$80 from Wanstalls 2 summers ago). I bought them to compare with my go-to mags (BC Steel Lips), and all work flawlessly in 3 different 10/22's. Not sure if something changed from when I bought mine?
