MYTH - Eye Dominance

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I know there will be arguments but this needs to be addressed, it's an epidemic. When I hear people ask or are told about eye dominance I cringe. A new shooter has trouble seeing the sights and someone suggests they have an eye dominance problem. I want to explode when I hear this! First of all, lets not get into whether or not it is a real phenomena. We simply cannot determine this because studies have not been done scientifically so forget that. I believe eye dominance is mislabeled, over used and most often should be thought of as eye preference, which is easy to change. Humans often make excuses for things that they fail at and often they only think they failed. Why would a new shooter believe they should be able to see through a sight properly on their first try? Surely they don't believe they should be able to hit a bullseye at 1000 yards on the first try. Likely because nobody told them how to and they just don't realize not knowing is normal. Please don't mention this myth and open Pandora's Box and give someone a complex for a lifetime.

For those of us with two working eyes, we see twice. One eye gives our brain information and so does the other. It is NOT the same information. Our brain processes this information and we see what we see without "thinking" about it. Try this simple exercise if you will. Place your hand, flat, between your eyes so that you can still see but your left eye cannot see to the right and your right eye cannot see to the left. If you are reading this screen you should be able to still read these words but a blurred transparency of your hand will bother you. Move your eyes without moving your head or hand and read the first letter on the first line which is on the left side of the screen. Sure you can read it. The transparent, blurred image of your hand is there but you can still read it. If you pick something on the other side of the screen you will get the same result. This blurred transparent image is the key. Ignore it, plain and simple. Trust me, you have enough brain power to focus on what you want to see while ignoring the rest. I have heard incredibly good shooters as a coach say that they believe the shooter actually has a very difficult time "seeing" from that eye. The quality of the information is not important yet, what is initially important is the fact that the shooter realizes it can be done. It is possible to conceive that there is someone out there that cannot read this page in its entirety while performing this exercise but I doubt it. Does this not prove that dominance is the wrong term to use and that we can choose which eye to use as we wish?

Knowing this, a shooter having difficulties seeing should practice this skill. Let's call it a skill because we need to have reliable control while maintaining a relaxed focus on our desired visual stimuli. Sorting information into the proper category is a very important skill for an advanced shooter. Controlling what you see so as to process that information properly into our trigger squeezing decision requires a great deal of effort. Not because it is difficult but because we are busy due to our expectations. A championship level shooter has a very busy brain. Remember though, we are talking about a new shooter and learning a single skill and their expectations should be very easy to accomplish. Baby steps, easy short term goals. Think about the mental stress a new shooter has when they try to do their best at something they know little about. Understanding and practicing which eye to receive information from is important. Simply focus on what you want to see and don't worry about the rest. Break the practice down to the very basics, just look at things from your sofa and you will know that it is possible. Now that you know you can do it, remember that you can. When it comes time to use this skill you will already be using other skills. Integration of two or more skills is actually another skill. No worries, it is easy. Why, because you recognize it. Be honest to yourself and understand where you are at. This enables you to set your next goal.

Cheers,
Rob Steele
 
Does this not prove that dominance is the wrong term to use and that we can choose which eye to use as we wish?

No!!
You can call it what you want, but if the eye doesn't focus on the front site, why would you continue to use it and make poor shots.
Your test only determines that your eyes can work together past the width of your hand. Each eye can see further than straight ahead. Close your left eye, watch your right hand move to the right. Keep your head straight. How far can your left eye see your right hand it before it disappears?
Keeping both eyes open is the optimum, if you can control your brain to view the front sight. Less muscle strain. You brain will pick which eye to use. A lot of people use corrective lens to achieve 20/20 vision, but may have 2 different lens to get to that point. Therefore they have a dominant eye. See what Im saying?

Have a look at this video, Im sure these guys do not wear these glasses for fashion. Skip to the 5min mark to watch the shooting. Don't worry about the skill level. The question is WHY do they wear these glasses.
To control the brain to use the dominant eye. As you will notice one shooter has the skills to control his dominate eye and doesn't require assistance.
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Simply focus on what you want to see and don't worry about the rest.

If the eye cant focus, use the other one. Eye dominance.
I understand your theory of controlling your brain to control your eyes, but it only will work if both eyes work equally well.
I am right hand dominate, left eye dominant. Some others will say they same. Pistol in right hand while using left eye. Yes it works!!! I do have proof.
Im not a professional but I have the skills to shoot with my dominate eye for an old guy.
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Its really not that hard to do. Now do you see that "Dominant Eye" is not a myth?
 
You can call it the "dominate eye", "perferred eye" or what I call the "master eye". I spent a few years coaching a cadet rifle team. The first thing I did with new shooters was to establish what eye was their master eye. I would then have them shoot either right handed or left handed depending on what side their master eye was. I had one young lady that did a lot of shooting, lots of pellet rifle and .22 at home and had always shot right handed like her father taught her. I told her that I wanted her to start shooting left handed. It was a struggle for a few weeks to retrain her to shoot on the other side of the rifle. In the long run she ended up winning the Zone shoot, went on to the Cadet Provincal Championship and shot well enough to make it to the Cadet National Championship.

I also know a couple of fullbore shooters that shoot opposite hand because of their master eye. Between them they have been on over 40 Bisley teams, and over a dozen Palma Teams. One even made an Olympic team (left handed, right eye dominate, shooting right handed)
 
It is not easy to retrain your dominant eye. My wife and her oldest son are both right handed left eye dominant. My son who has shot fromba young age is right/right. I plan to get a set of shooting glasses for them and tape over the left eye to try and force their brain to use the right eye instead of left.
 
It is not easy to retrain your dominant eye. My wife and her oldest son are both right handed left eye dominant. My son who has shot fromba young age is right/right. I plan to get a set of shooting glasses for them and tape over the left eye to try and force their brain to use the right eye instead of left.

I had to do that myself. When I started shooting I realized I was "left eye dominant" and I was closing my right eye to get a better sight picture (I have tried both eyes open but cannot focus). So I wore an eye patch on my left eye for a day to teach myself to switch between my eyes as needed. I shoot rifle right handed but handgun left handed.
 
It is not easy to retrain your dominant eye. My wife and her oldest son are both right handed left eye dominant. My son who has shot fromba young age is right/right. I plan to get a set of shooting glasses for them and tape over the left eye to try and force their brain to use the right eye instead of left.

This is not necessary. A good friend of mine, happens to be SOF, and shoots left handed- but is right eye dominant. He cants his head. Looks strange the first time- but I guarantee he can shoot circles around 99% of the people you will ever meet. That works fine for off hand and pistol. If you are working with optics/precision, eye dominance is not a concern as you can simply close the other eye.
 
I believe eye dominance is mislabeled, over used and most often should be thought of as eye preference, which is easy to change.

how many successful compettitive shooters do you know of who found their eye 'preference' to be 'easy to change'?
 
This is not necessary. A good friend of mine, happens to be SOF, and shoots left handed- but is right eye dominant. He cants his head. Looks strange the first time- but I guarantee he can shoot circles around 99% of the people you will ever meet. That works fine for off hand and pistol. If you are working with optics/precision, eye dominance is not a concern as you can simply close the other eye.

Correct...I am "cross-dominant" ie right handed with a left dominant eye...I cant my head a little and, if shooting from behind a barricade, stick my hip out like a hooker to make sure my left eye clears the barricade but my centre mass stays covered
 
If anyone claims there is no such thing as a "dominant eye" - they simple don't know how to determine the dominant eye!!! Its a very simple excercise and the FIRST thing I had every shooter determine/confirm prior to the Black Badge course! AND I taught more than "just a few courses"...
 
Eye dominance is a huge factor in recurve archery where you only have a front sight. People who try to shoot with their non-dominant eye can have some success, but it is much more work then using their dominant eye.
 
This is not necessary. A good friend of mine, happens to be SOF, and shoots left handed- but is right eye dominant. He cants his head. Looks strange the first time- but I guarantee he can shoot circles around 99% of the people you will ever meet. That works fine for off hand and pistol. If you are working with optics/precision, eye dominance is not a concern as you can simply close the other eye.

may work for scopes and such, but will not work with irons, and my kids learn first using irons then peep sights, then scopes. the 17yo cant see through iron sights tilting his head. so glasses with a patch is what is on the menu.

handgun it is not as important, but rifle it is a big problem.
 
I grew up shooting right/right until i was 14 or so because i was right handed. I wore an eye patch off and on since i was young to correct my right eye. my optometrist decided my right eye has some sort of astigmatism or something. non correctable. So i began shooting left handed, i would say my left eye is 20% stronger than my right, which makes a big difference. I can shoot with both hands now, but more accurately with my left hand. I wish my left eye dominance was a myth, but its not.
 
Call it what you will here was my experience teaching my wife to shoot...

She is right handed and I'm left...

I shoot left handed and with my left eye...

Naturally her being right handed I placed the rifle in her hand so she would be shooting right, she shot about 20 rounds of .22 and could not hit the broad side of a barn.

She watched me shooting left handed and then when I handed her the rifle again she held it left and said, you know this feels better. She shot another 20 rounds holding left and using her left eye and was on target 90% of the time

She now always shoots left hand, left eye and is a better shot than I

So I don't know what you want to call it, she's right handed but shoots left
 
Well this is my story.

I grew up shooting left handed as a kid. That was the NATURAL way for me.

When my Dad gave me my first rifle it was a right handed Rem 788 in 22-250. I cannot remember how old I was when he gave it to me. All I know is that I felt I needed to learn to shoot right handed. It took time as it felt so awkward.

Today I shoot right handed and I am left eye dominant. Being a BR shooter, it works out perfect for me. I can shoot my BR rifles with both eyes open. It is just a quick message by the brain to switch between eyes when wanting to look at my wind flags and then when I want to look thru the scope.

Hand guns are another animal. I shoot right handed but I need to aim using my left eye. So in other words it is almost as if I have to look over my left hand when holding a hand gun.

It works for me.
 
Eye dominance is important when shooting with both open?

None the less I am cross eye dominant and still shoot with my non-dominant eye. That is, my left eye is dominant but I shoot right handed using my right eye. Both open or closed.

J
 
Eye dominance is a huge factor in recurve archery where you only have a front sight. People who try to shoot with their non-dominant eye can have some success, but it is much more work then using their dominant eye.

Right on mustang979 - same problem occurs in handgun shooting - especially action shooting where fast sight acquistion is critical.
 
I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I don't shoot for any competition, so at least in my case, I always shoot with my dominant eye. In my opinion, shoot with the eye that makes you more comfortable, it will be easier to shoot better.
 
If you shoot with one eye closed it won't make any difference but if you shoot 2 eyes open then of course you have to use your dominant eye if you want any kind of consistency.
The only myth would be if someone perpetuated the idea that eye dominance was a myth.
 
Calling BS guys, like it or not. It is sad to know how many new shooters are told that they have a "problem". Some of you guys are arguing in circles.
Either a person can physically see with both eyes or they cannot. This issue is up to an optometrist/ophthalmologist or some other doctor.
Whether they can effectively choose which eye to use is relevant here. They are told that they cannot, by people that they look up to. BAM, instant and usually permanent false belief.
I've stood by and heard this many times, "Oh you are left eye dominate, we will have to teach you how to shoot with a blinder, or left handed or some other bad idea". No conversations about what struggles a new shooter normally has to see the sights, no conversations about how the human eye cannot focus on two distances at a time, etc etc. Least of all, I have never heard more than a few seconds about trying to process what you see. I have seen no proof from any source that proves some people cannot process this information. What I have seen is a lack of explanation and a lack of understanding by those doing the talking.

I have a direct question. Explain to me what procedure or simple test you have to determine if a person has a "dominate" eye.
 
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