Some good press for the AR-15

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Ms. Gallant,

As you know, there’s enormous political and popular pressure on the AR-15 rifle platform of modern sporting rifles. It is a much maligned piece of equipment dear to the hearts of 100’s of thousands shooters in North America. It is most likely the most popular rifle in Canada and many people don’t understand why.

I have an AR 15 rifle chambered in .223 caliber and also have an “adapter” that allows me to shoot economical .22 Long Rifle cartridges as well. Even as a relative beginner, I was able to buy an “off the shelf” rifle and then modify it to suit my exact needs. The platform has been called the “Lego Set” for grownups many times and it’s true; there are hundreds of third-party parts and accessories that permit tailoring the gun to personal preferences.

We shooters often refer to the AR-15 as “that scary black gun” because of the negative emotions that it seems to stir with people that don’t understand the facts. The reality is that it’s a semi-automatic rifle not unlike dozens of others and actually less powerful than most hunting rifles. As you well know, legal firearm owners don’t buy an AR-15 rifle because it’s “a killing machine” but rather because it’s an excellent recreational shooting tool better than most others at reasonable cost; it’s popular because it’s so much fun to own and shoot!!

This morning, I came across an excellent article on the platform that I have decided to share. I’ve pasted it below to save you the effort of linking.

http://www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/every-canadian-hunter-needs-ar15/

Why Every Canadian Hunter Needs an AR15
by The Hunting Gear Guy on March 27, 2014 in News, Rifle Reviews

The much maligned AR-15 doesn’t get much love from traditional minded hunters, but it should because as a tool, it’s the best at many things. So, why would a hunter benefit from owning a mean, black, restricted firearm?
Rifle Marksmanship
When I ask other hunters how many shots they take per year, it’s often very low. Many pride themselves on using as few rounds as possible per year; making a 20 round box last 5 years or more. That speaks well to typical hunting rifle accuracy and the hunter’s respect for game. My question for all the low round counters out there: how would you rate your marksmanship against someone who fires 1000+ rounds per year from a variety of positions? Poorly? No doubt! Forget the truck side mirror, how good are you at shooting from standing, kneeling, sitting, or prone when those shooting opportunities present themselves in the field? It takes lots of trigger time and practice to stay at a decent level where you’re shooting well from these positions. You could use your hunting rifle to practice, but cost of rounds and the speed of firing will be greatly reduced with a typical hunting rifle. An AR provides a platform for copious amounts of trigger time, good enough accuracy to make it matter, and ammo that’s as kind on your shoulder as it is on your wallet.

Practical Competition Platform
Many people, including myself, need competition as motivation to improve. Rifle marksmanship is no different. When it comes to practical stance or action rifle competition, there are AR-15′s and everything else.
An AR15 is ideal for practical competition, because it’s:
• Light. The direct impingement action of the AR15 is very light, and simple in parts count.
• Accurate. Most piston driven systems lack the accuracy that a good AR15 provides.
• Flexible. No other rifle in existence today offers the flexibility that the AR15 has. Change your barrel length, forend, lower, trigger, grip, upper, stock. . .anything of meaning has tons of aftermarket parts available.
• Low recoil. Most AR15s are available in 5.56×45 or .223, a light recoiling, inexpensive round.
• Inexpensive: A Norinco AR15 will come in at $500-$600, an intermediate cost AR15 will be $1000-$1500, and a great AR15 will be $1500+. Comparatively, most NR semi auto 5.56 rifles in Canada are $2000+.
• Magazines are inexpensive: $15-$20 per mag? Way better than most platforms and those extra mags are necessary in competition.
• The standard. It’s fast to reload, accurate, cheap, flexible, and low recoil. What more could you ask from the standard in competition action shooting?
The downsides of the AR platform are almost negligible from a competitive point of view:
• DI action is dirty and comparatively difficult to clean.
o Not an issue with a competition gun that gets cleaned every 1000 rounds. Or every time you take it home if you’re like me.
• Not as mission flexible for different calibers and barrel lengths
o Maybe this is an issue in the military, but where I’m at, the AR15 offers plenty of flexibility through inter change-able uppers.
• Not as potentially accurate due to the upper & lower 2 pin system
• Tolerances can make for a bit of wiggle between some lowers and uppers, b
o but there are solutions for that, and most other military battle rifles have much more egregious accuracy faults. For a standing/kneeling/sitting/action rifle, it’s well accurate enough. Most of us don’t need more practice shooting prone off a bipod.
The biggest downside to the AR15 in Canada isn’t competition related: the entire platform is restricted, no matter what. The disadvantage: no hunting, transporting without ATT, or firing off-range. The advantage to that: we don’t have to worry about barrel lengths like they do in the US. There is no difference in licensing and use between a 7″ barrel and a 20″ other than the concussive blast and fireball on the shorter barrel.
So owning and competing with an AR15 opens hunters up to marksmanship practice that’s simply out of reach for a typical hunting bolt action rifle.
Adding to the AR15 Membership
This one seems kind of silly until you think how a politician thinks. In our last few elections, the Liberal party has presented complete handgun bans and complete semi-auto bans as reasons for people to vote for them. The NDP is similarly very anti gun. As a hunter, that #### is scary. How long after they ban all semi auto’s, including hunting rifles like the Browning BAR, will they start to ban bolt action rifles? “Sniper Rifles!” they’ll cry as they ban our Remington 700′s and Savage 110′s. Adding to the AR15 brotherhood prevents or at least delays the time until they come for our deer rifles. It’s also a clear indicator to politicians that their ridership includes engaged rifle shooters that care about their sport and use the best available, restrictions be damned. If you start to worry about the rifle being too dangerous, remember that thousands have owned this rifle style, and in the past, many even owned fully automatic or burst-fire versions. We need to bump up those numbers big time! Our government likes to pretend that restricting full auto weapons and riveting 30 round mags makes a real difference, compared with spending more on mental health issues that often are the cause of mass shootings. Remember that what the government is concerned about is frequently NOT the real issues, and that we had thousands of Swiss Arms rifles in the country that committed no crime until they were determined to be “illegal” by the RCMP. Similar thing with the CZ 858. In the end, rulings are made by people who judge the law as well as what will fly in the current political climate. Make “what will fly” different!
You’re 1 more friend who has an AR15
All you “in the closet” AR15 owners who aren’t taking all their acquaintances out to the range; take more people out! We lose public opinion only out of public ignorance. I personally aim to take 20-50 people to the range each year. Some years I don’t hit that number, but for the ones I do, I protect my sport and share in the experience. In a literal way, we need tons of voters out there who think “Hey, leave those shooters alone! They’re not bothering anyone.” The only way we get there is by providing lots of fun to lots of people so that they back us up when push comes to shove. AR15′s are lots of fun to shoot at the range. Make sure that your kids get that opportunity by owning one and taking new shooters out to try the sport.

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I hope this article adds to your understanding of Canadian shooters who enjoy the AR-15 and also helps to portray the gun in an accurate and favourable way.

Thanks again for the help you have been in representing Canadian gun owners.

Gordon Thompson

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I dunno what all the letter writing is gonna do, guys. The people that oppose us think that Van Damme and Segal can blow up buses with a 9mm. They think a black rifle makes a miscreant invincible. They don't understand the idea that guns SAVE lives too, and that one good shot with a pistol will put a mass murderer down long before he can rack up his body count. They will blame guns rather than the failed liberal social experiments that are actually responsible. Our opponents have an agenda, they are mostly liars and cheats and most are as dumb as a post.

I hate to say it but I can't see letter writing doing any good. We always react too. We need to take the initiative away from our opponents. Rather than waiting for the next prohibition, or the next assault on our rights - we need to get as down and dirty as they are. I have had enough. Screw them and their crooked politicians. Screw the old ladies with bad haircuts that hate guns and have never fired them. Screw their lickspittles in the supreme court and the RCMP. We need to stand as a community and tell these people in one voice to FOAD. And we need to MEAN IT. That should be the message from here on out from the gun clubs, the forums, and the community at large.

Good grief, if gun control could actually work, we would enforce it ourselves.
 
Don't know about it being the most popular rifle in Canada when they are A-restricted, and B-when the few (non-specialty) gun stores that sell them only have a couple compared with racks of bolt rifles and shotguns and C-when the only ones I've ever seen at the range are the ones my friend and I recently purchased.

Most popular single rifle in Canada is more likely to be one of the Red ones, right now.

I use the modularity aspect to explain the appeal to a fuddy relative of mine. After all there are people out there who will buy several otherwise identical rifles in different calibres to satisfy their sporting needs. The AR is simply a far more efficient platform for doing the exact same thing.
 
The intent was to give Cheryl Gallant more and better information. She has proven to me over and over again that she's in the game and on the right side. I knew it was long because the article is long. I decided to reprint it as many busy people won't follow a link. As far as the "popularity" thing goes, I spend six months a year in the US and it is definitely the most popular rifle here. One of our problems is that when something happens in the US and a rifle is involved, the AR get's dragged through the mud again. Some people need to know how many are in use. It's like saying a Ford was involved in an accident.

As far as the letter and article are concerned, take what you like and leave the rest. I didn't want to change or omit anything out of respect for the author. Do what ever you want with the letter component. My intent was to give Ms. Gallant more in the way of fact and positive argument. I hope she finds it useful.
 
If we forget about political issue now, that may be naive question, but may be someone could explain me please.
Why hunter can't practice at the range with hunting rifle ? If you use AR, it's another setup and different ammo...
 
I could be mistaken Mr. ekp but I think the author of the article was referring to the relatively low cost of .223 ammunition. It is considerably cheaper than what many hunting rifles shoot. For example, quality .308 cartridges are more than $1.00 each while .223 ammo for practice can be had for $.30 a round or less. The cartridges I use are in the mid range at about $.40 each. I compete with an AR 15 and use a minimum of 2000 rounds a year. I also have a conversion bolt for my AR that shoots .22 LR at about $.04 a round and use that for certain types of competition. So I get the benefit of two guns in one which can't be done with many other firearms as easily.
 
I understand your point but the author was explaining why the AR -15 is so popular in competition where as you may know, quick reloads are a critical element in successful gaming. I think over all the article answers several questions. I myself have had a rabid anti ask me why I needed a gun that shot so many bullets. This particular person is so out of touch that I never did respond and just avoid her entirely. She was obsessed about the Newtown tragedy but was totally ignorant of the facts particularly as they relate to the differences between the American and Canadian gun reality.

For those of us old enough to remember, the AR experience is like driving a fast and nimble MG convertible. That's my story anyway. :)
 
I could be mistaken Mr. ekp but I think the author of the article was referring to the relatively low cost of .223 ammunition. It is considerably cheaper than what many hunting rifles shoot. For example, quality .308 cartridges are more than $1.00 each while .223 ammo for practice can be had for $.30 a round or less. The cartridges I use are in the mid range at about $.40 each. I compete with an AR 15 and use a minimum of 2000 rounds a year. I also have a conversion bolt for my AR that shoots .22 LR at about $.04 a round and use that for certain types of competition. So I get the benefit of two guns in one which can't be done with many other firearms as easily.

Actually, could you share please, what conversion kit do you use with your AR ? Does it give you any issues ?

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Thanks in advance !
 
Actually, could you share please, what conversion kit do you use with your AR ? Does it give you any issues ?

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Thanks in advance !

I have a CMMG .22 conversion in Stainless Steel which I recommend as it's easier to clean. I treat mine with Froglube that makes it even easier. I bought the basic stainless model and then the brass locking collar which is an option. I also have the bolt hold open adapter which works. I do not use the Forward Assist option as I found it useless and a potential problem in my earlier setup.

There are two disadvantages with the conversion bolts. Because the AR is rifled for heavier bullets, it is sub optimal for .22's that prefer a 1-16 twist. In theory the .22 is over stabilized and this should affect accuracy. The .22 cartridge is also "dirty" so more cleaning may be required. Both these aspects are meaningless to me as I find the .22 accurate enough for what I do and I like to clean my guns more often than others might.

Arms East and others carry the CMMG. If you have a choice, buy the SS model and enjoy shooting for .05$ a round. I get 3 inch groups of less at the distances I shoot ( 50 yards and less) so I'm very pleased with this unit.
 
Define "down & dirty". Just what is it you are proposing or suggesting would be better than writing intelligent letters?

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bastards." Claire Wolfe, from "101 Things To Do Before The Revolution".

I know a few Americans who tell me that they don't believe that the average US gun owner will roll over as we do here. The non-compliance of Connecticut AR 15 owners is an example, thousands of them willingly becoming 'paper criminals' in defiance of their law makers.
They don't know what the catalyst will be or what will bring them to the tipping point, but they feel that once it starts, it will snow ball very quickly. You have to remember their history - founded by bloody revolution against an autocratic government and willing to fight an even bloodier civil war over states rights. We have no such history.

As for the length of hercster's letter, it is true that short and sharp gets more attention. The foaming-at-the-mouth antis are unlikely to be swayed, preferring hot button emotional rhetoric over logic, reason and common sense.

I dunno what all the letter writing is gonna do, guys. The people that oppose us think that Van Damme and Segal can blow up buses with a 9mm. They think a black rifle makes a miscreant invincible. They don't understand the idea that guns SAVE lives too, and that one good shot with a pistol will put a mass murderer down long before he can rack up his body count. They will blame guns rather than the failed liberal social experiments that are actually responsible. Our opponents have an agenda, they are mostly liars and cheats and most are as dumb as a post.

I hate to say it but I can't see letter writing doing any good. We always react too. We need to take the initiative away from our opponents. Rather than waiting for the next prohibition, or the next assault on our rights - we need to get as down and dirty as they are. I have had enough. Screw them and their crooked politicians. Screw the old ladies with bad haircuts that hate guns and have never fired them. Screw their lickspittles in the supreme court and the RCMP. We need to stand as a community and tell these people in one voice to FOAD. And we need to MEAN IT. That should be the message from here on out from the gun clubs, the forums, and the community at large.

Good grief, if gun control could actually work, we would enforce it ourselves.
 
It's obviously a rifle that has appeal for you, so why not own one? The more of us that own them, the better. We have to get past the 'evil black gun' imagery of the AR 15 platform and the way to do that is for more of them to be in private hands.
We've lost too many guns already through this sort of fear mongering and intimidation; one gun at a time. Today the AR 15, tomorrow the Mini 14, semi-auto .22's, semi-auto shotguns, ..... It has to stop.

if they were non restricted I most certainly own and hunt with one.
 
Don't know about it being the most popular rifle in Canada when they are A-restricted, and B-when the few (non-specialty) gun stores that sell them only have a couple compared with racks of bolt rifles and shotguns and C-when the only ones I've ever seen at the range are the ones my friend and I recently purchased.

Most popular single rifle in Canada is more likely to be one of the Red ones, right now.

There is no way the AR is close to being the most popular rifle in Canada. For instance, Cooey alone produced something like 6 million rifles in this country before disappearing and there are 65,000+ SKS's in old copies of the LGR and more sold everyday. I expect the most popular rifle is something like a Remington model 700 or other bolt action hunting rifle. At most there are maybe 50,000 AR's here and that probably doesn't even get it into the top 5 rifles owned in this country.

Otherwise, I salute OP for getting into the fight and keeping the letters going to his MP.


Mark
 
Great letter... I used to be of the mindset that I never built/bought an AR because it was restricted and I can't take it out to the bush, so I got a CZ... fat lot of good that did. It's all this recent Swiss/CZ crap that has now gotten me into the AR club (and back into the handgun club). I plan on building one or two more, and will use them to get my friends/family out to the range as it's the one place I need to get out to a lot more.
 
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