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About 2 months ago I picked up a AG/42B Ljungman rifle chambered in 6.5x55 Swedish. It has all matching serial numbers , original bore and looks mint, and is dated to 1943 from Carl Gustav factory.

I paid $425 for it and wanted to know it's value.
Also what types of commercial ammo is safe to shoot from this rifle
 
Swedish_Rifleman said:
About 2 months ago I picked up a AG/42B Ljungman rifle chambered in 6.5x55 Swedish. It has all matching serial numbers , original bore and looks mint, and is dated to 1943 from Carl Gustav factory.

I paid $425 for it and wanted to know it's value.
Also what types of commercial ammo is safe to shoot from this rifle
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You've kinda answered your own questions. Value wise, $425 is a pretty damn good deal. I do not know how that compares to "market value", but for a high quality semiautomatic rifle chambered in a full power round, you can't really go wrong at that price. As far as what types of commercial ammo are safe to shoot from this rifle, well... as long as it's 6.5x55 and it fits in the magazine, you should be fine.
 
Market value and what most sell for is around $350 to $450 at the moment, some more some less, they really have never been big sellers or much in demand, part of the reason is that they are finicky on the ammo that will work well with them as most off the shelf ammo is loaded with too slow a powder for them and which can cause problems with extraction, case separation and in worst cases blown up rifles. Another reason people are not racing out to get them is the cost and availabilty of the 6.5x55mm ammo and the fact that for less or close to the same cost you can get another semi-auto rifle like a SKS, SVT-40 or Norinco M14, all of which have easy to get, cheaper ammo. Other than this they are an excellent rifle if they are hand loaded for.
 
they where designed for 140 grain bullets .
the bolt action rifles where designed for 160 grain bullets .
I would imagine 160 grain factory ammo works perfectly fine , but I have not fired any in my rifles .

any factory made ammo should be fine , but myself i'd stick to stuff using 140 grain bullets or lighter


if your building handloads use a powder similar or faster in burn rate to imr 4064 ........

BUT you can avoid all this buy modifying the gas block on the barrel so it is adjustable .....
basically nothing more than installing a slightly longer screw with a locking nut underneath ( do a search here there are some pics on the site somewhere .)

the hakim rifle which is basically the same rifle but in 8mm uses a adjustable gas block .

also if your reloading try to find some cci #34 primers , they are a fairly hard primer and resist being dented by the action cycling . ( when the action cycle the floating firing pin can dent soft primers as it moves around ) .
myself I avoid federal primers as they tend to be very soft . but this is something that I would do with any semi auto , not just the ag42 .

keep your fingers out of the action , it makes "garand thumb" seem like a mosquito bite .

also you will come across postings where some people are recommending that a person grease or oil the rounds before use ......

DO NOT do this . all rifles are ment to be fired dry . it is a very dangerous practice that could have the action come apart from excessive bolt back thrust .

and don't lose the magazine , they are very hard to find and expensive if you do accidently run across one .
 
"also if your reloading try to find some cci #34 primers , they are a fairly hard primer and resist being dented by the action cycling . ( when the action cycle the floating firing pin can dent soft primers as it moves around ) .
myself I avoid federal primers as they tend to be very soft . but this is something that I would do with any semi auto , not just the ag42."

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All the AG-42b Ljungman's I have had a non floating firing pin with a spring in front of the firing pin just like this one -

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/488190.htm
 
Blastattack said:
As far as what types of commercial ammo are safe to shoot from this rifle, well... as long as it's 6.5x55 and it fits in the magazine, you should be fine.
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Wrong. Too slow of a burn rate and the port pressure is too high causing ripped off rims, hard extraction and possibly case head failures that can destroy the rifle.
Bad advice

Also, as mentioned the AG42 does not have a free floating firing pin
 
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I put a box of Remington soft points that were 140gr last week . Very accurate it hit 20/20 water jugs at 175 yards with ease. But I keep hearing about the ammo issue with it not wanting to chew some types or may wreck the rifle . And I'm not into hand load yet so I can't just munkey around in the garage with loads
 
mkrnel said:
All the AG-42b Ljungman's I have had a non floating firing pin with a spring in front of the firing pin just like this one -

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/488190.htm
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I just pulled one apart .... your right ,non floating , my bad ....... but cycle some rounds through the action and it still dents the primers ( this is why I thought is was a floating pin ) .
 
Swedish_Rifleman said:
About 2 months ago I picked up a AG/42B Ljungman rifle chambered in 6.5x55 Swedish. It has all matching serial numbers , original bore and looks mint, and is dated to 1943 from Carl Gustav factory.

I paid $425 for it and wanted to know it's value.
Also what types of commercial ammo is safe to shoot from this rifle
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It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If you had waited long enough you might have found one that nice for a bit less, or they might have gone up in price before you met another nice one. You did o.k., enjoy it.
 
I do believe the rear sight knob can be removed and flipped over to use either round nose or spitzer bullet's. Could that be to compensate between older round nose ammo and the newer issued stuff?
 
burnt_servo said:
I just pulled one apart .... your right ,non floating , my bad ....... but cycle some rounds through the action and it still dents the primers ( this is why I thought is was a floating pin ) .
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No problem, imagine how bad the dents would be without that spring to help retard the forward momentum of the firing pin in that very fast and heavy forward moving bolt and slide.
 
As far as ammo is concerned, you have to be careful that any commercial ammo (or reloading data) is marked as 6.5x55 Swedish (sometimes SE), and *NOT* 6.5x55 SKAN. The SKAN is loaded to a higher pressure limit than the Swedish.

Stan
 
I love my Ljungman. Mine for over 25 years, and one of my very first rifles.

Direct gas, ambidextrous, and possibly the most accurate 'surpy semi out there. Not that 6.5x55 is a shoulder-buster, but sending 'em out of a Ljungman is very recoil friendly. When I found mine 'surpy ammo was available n' cheap. If you need to make it longer, standard 96 bayos fit. Keep eyes open for the parts kit (extra extractors n'such), a few strippers(chargers?), and don't lose your magazine!!!

LOUD, brass chewing/flinging gems for sure. As mentioned, there's a few posts about taming the action through gas management, but I haven't tried that yet. Awesome sticky about the Ljungman, Hakim, and Rashid in this forum too.
 
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