Fail to fire 243 win

You have solid strikes. Bad batch of primers. Pull bullets and throw away that tray of primers. It happens. You're only out $5 or $6.
 
It was 4 out 0f 42 rnds, I used a hand primer, Is it possible that using too much lube while resizing can cause the neck to shorten therefore giving a headspace issue, although there is no visible oddities on the case,and it measures within tolerences, reason for asking is I have had damage from resizing before from using too much lube, Im hoping its a simple problem with primers or my reloading skills not my relatively new rifle,

Yes and no: Excess lube will cause obvious distortions of the shoulder that usually appear wrinkly. I wouldn't rule out the "first time for everything" phenoma though. But since you measured them and they were in spec, with no visible anomaly then examine the primers before suspecting the rifle or other more indepth possibilities.
 
No I don't handle the primers at all, I use a pair of forceps to flip them in the tray, unfortunately I can't test the cases until the weekend, fairly certain the boss lady would be fairly unhappy about it

you can stick the barrel into an old cloth or pillow, the only sound will be a click from the firing pin. otherwise just tell her your playing cops and robbers :)

i am talking about a primer only of course...
 
I have been using cci primer's for many yrs, like about 40 and have never had one fail to fire, even in ammo that has been on my shelf for 25 yrs. Yes I know I don't shoot enough. but shot rounds last yr that were in the gun room for that said some yrs.
 
It was 4 out 0f 42 rnds, I used a hand primer,

Like I said seat them so that they are fully seated. I use a rcbs hand primer and was seating them to what I thought was ok but they were not deep enough so when the pin it it would dent the cup and push the primer in. So I started seating them until they are bottomed out in the brass and haven't had a problem in around 2k primers.
 
Like I said seat them so that they are fully seated. I use a rcbs hand primer and was seating them to what I thought was ok but they were not deep enough so when the pin it it would dent the cup and push the primer in. So I started seating them until they are bottomed out in the brass and haven't had a problem in around 2k primers.

Primers are normally seated just a tad below flush. For my 500mag they normally won't go below flush unless you really press them in there.
 
you can stick the barrel into an old cloth or pillow, the only sound will be a click from the firing pin. otherwise just tell her your playing cops and robbers :)

i am talking about a primer only of course...

Don't do this^^
Never chamber a round that can potentially go boom in a house, even if the boom is the pop of the primer.

It looks to me that you have good firing pin strikes, I would chalk it up as bad primers. As for CCI's, I have loaded 1000's of rounds using CCI primers and never had a FTF.
I would say it was a fluke batch, or they got wet, etc.
 
What you're looking for in primer seating isn't so much whether they are high or low. The characteristic that you are after is "bottomed". Primer pockets vary in depth and a shallow pocket will result in a high primer and a deep one will look low. Crushing the little bastard into the pocket so it looks right isn't doing it any favors. Auto-loaders; well that's a different argument.
 
Thxs fire306, I am married to a temperamental German woman I don't need anything else too piss her off, haha,
As far as the primers go my dad used 30 out of the same lot in his 30-06 and had no issues yesterday, I know this might not mean anything, but maybe it is another possible issue instead of being faulty primer
 
You could strip your bolt down and clean the striker assembly. Most bolts have never been apart and thickened packing grease and grime could be slowing things down. It does look like you are getting a good strike, but cleaning doesn't cost anything.
 
Bashing a suspect primer with a hammer is NOT SAFE!!!!!
It's got nothing to do with the powder unless said powder got wet or it's really old. Neither does headspace. Ammo not going bang is not an indicator of bad headspace. Far more likely to be a lack of powder than anything else. It happens.
The primers go bang when hit?
 
Don't do this^^
Never chamber a round that can potentially go boom in a house, even if the boom is the pop of the primer.

It looks to me that you have good firing pin strikes, I would chalk it up as bad primers. As for CCI's, I have loaded 1000's of rounds using CCI primers and never had a FTF.
I would say it was a fluke batch, or they got wet, etc.

And what would be the problem with this if its only the primer??? I've done it many times, Difference of opinion I guess.
 
And what would be the problem with this if its only the primer??? I've done it many times, Difference of opinion I guess.

Some people are overly concerned with other people's safety. Not that firing primers off is unsafe in anyway. Maybe he thinks we might accidently load a live round and fire it.

How about just knocking the primers out of the case and visually inspecting them to see if they ignited or not?
That's was I was just thinking as well, Cci have a green/yellow paper covering the priming compound.
 
How about just knocking the primers out of the case and visually inspecting them to see if they ignited or not?

I know when I was dealing with a FTF issue, visually I could see they had not ignited. I wanted to eliminate the primer compound being bad. So If I could not get them to go in the rifle,(loaded at the range..... then unloaded in my basement), I would whack em with a hammer to see if they would pop. Guys were saying I must have contaminated the compound with oily fingers..... well In my case, I proved the compound was good in all my FTFs.

It may not be 3m, work standard, no risk, zero tolerance, sunray safe...... but I'm ok with it. Its one time Ill wear glasses over the trusty safety squint..... and that's good enough for me.
 
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