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    Question Is that legal?

    Hi everyone,

    Just a question about shotgun. I bought a Dominion 12.5" shotgun barrel. If I put it on a factory Remington 870 Express, is that legal? Is that barrel changing considered "alter"? If so, I'm afraid I can't do that because the overall length will be under legal requirement.

    Any idea?

    Thanks.

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    Swapping a barrel is fine.

    Causing it to be under the minimum overall length is not fine.

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    I'm pretty sure as long as overall length when you can fire the shotgun is greater than 660mm, it's fine if the barrel came that length from the manufacturer. For example, you cannot saw down an 18.5 inch Remington Factory barrel to 12.5 inches and put that on your express.

    Not a legal expert, but that's my understanding...

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    26'' overall to be NR

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    Quote Originally Posted by leohui View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Just a question about shotgun. I bought a Dominion 12.5" shotgun barrel. If I put it on a factory Remington 870 Express, is that legal? Is that barrel changing considered "alter"? If so, I'm afraid I can't do that because the overall length will be under legal requirement.

    Any idea?

    Thanks.
    Legal matters are always best to know firsthand yourself and have the correct legal definition/information with your firearms at all times.

    Regarding your question in particular however, provided the barrel is a factory manufactured barrel and has not been shortened in any way (even by a gunsmith) and the rifle still remains longer then 26", then yes pertaining to this style of firearm you mention the rifle would be non-prohibited/non-restricted.

    Like always when getting advice/information from the net, refer to my first sentence to cover your a$$ regarding the boys in blue.

    Many CGN'ers myself included will carry the correct firearms regulations with their firearm(s) just in case there is ever a misunderstanding with an officer of the law; so that any charges and/or confiscation can be avoided because legal fee's generally are not covered by the magistrate even if you win in court and are acquitted of all charges.

    Nothing wrong with asking a question here to get some advice or to lead you in the right direction regarding regulations etc., but as mentioned earlier it's best (and really necessary) that you take the time to fully understand all Canadian Firearm Regulations regarding any and all firearms in your possession.

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    pretty sure you can cut a bolt or lever rifle to 18 inches but shotguns and semi centerfires to 18.5. Canada at its best. (could be wrong on this)

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    This is correct. According to the regs, 18 inches is the minimum you can cut to for non-semi auto centerfire rifles and shotguns, 18.5 is the minimum for semi-auto. That .5 of an inch makes ALL the difference, you know - it takes an otherwise non-restricted modern sporting rifle into the realm of ultra deadly death machine weapon of mass destruction. So say the Libtards anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leohui View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Just a question about shotgun. I bought a Dominion 12.5" shotgun barrel. If I put it on a factory Remington 870 Express, is that legal? Is that barrel changing considered "alter"? If so, I'm afraid I can't do that because the overall length will be under legal requirement.

    Any idea?

    Thanks.
    I think the best advice that could be offered here is; don't ask for legal advice on CGN. Call your CFO, or a firearms lawyer, or search out your answer in the laws regs.

    If you follow someone's advice here and end up getting busted with a restricted or prohibited firearm that you thought was NR, what are you going to tell the officer, crown or judge? "Well, gee... some guy on the interweb told me it was ok!" Do you think the person here that gave you the advice will cover your legal bills, support your family and pay your mortgage while you're in jail? Nope.

    It's one thing to ask people for their opinions here, but please... don't follow any advice you get on here without verifying it.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.t.smith View Post
    pretty sure you can cut a bolt or lever rifle to 18 inches but shotguns and semi centerfires to 18.5. Canada at its best. (could be wrong on this)
    Quote Originally Posted by Longarm9 View Post
    This is correct. According to the regs, 18 inches is the minimum you can cut to for non-semi auto centerfire rifles and shotguns, 18.5 is the minimum for semi-auto. That .5 of an inch makes ALL the difference, you know - it takes an otherwise non-restricted modern sporting rifle into the realm of ultra deadly death machine weapon of mass destruction. So say the Libtards anyway.
    Not exactly right on either point.

    If you cut a rifle/shotgun barrel below 18 inches the barrel is prohibited.

    A barrel less than 18.5 inches (470mm) on a semi auto will make the gun restricted.

    Cutting the barrel on a manual action rifle down to 18 is fine for NR as long as overall length is still greater than 26 inches.

    Barrels purpose manufactured under 18 inches are fine. You just can't cut barrels to under 18 inches and OAL rules still apply.

    Doesn't matter what long gun you have, don't cut the barrel below 18 inches.
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    I was referring to only the barrel length. Yes, the 26 inch overall length rule still applies, of course.

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