BCL 102 in 45 Raptor

I would buy it. bunch of negative Nancy's coming up with reasons not to...

Bcl's sales department could probably think of a few reasons why not to.

Yeah let's skip every popular calibre, we have three guys on cgn who want the newest most obscure round we can think of.
 
ITAR means nothing if you produce your stuff in canada, which BCL does. As far as I know, the only thing they need is a reamer for the right calibre, and it is my understanding that a 460S&W reamer will work fine to make 45raptor barrels.

Then they need magazines and brass, neither of which should be a problem.

The real question is whether there's a market for that. With 0 ammo available in stores, it would be a reloader gun, which is not a very large market. At that point, a 6.5CM looks a lot better from a business point of view. But not until sales of 308 are less than production capacity, of course.
 
45 Raptor is on an entirely different level than 458 SOCOM and 45 Bushmaster.

The max you're getting out of the short action calibres is ~2500 ft-lbs. 45 Raptor is 3700 ft-lbs. 50% more energy.

Its pretty much the same as comparing 300blackout to 308win. Clearly the one with the bigger case is going to be more powerful, and the difference in case size isn't tiny with these or anything.

They are all short range cartridges though, and something with a longer history that uses more common components would be better. (Did anyone else notice how the 45 Raptor uses stupid .452 bullets, not the 458 caliber bullets most 45-cal rifles use? Thats stupid. (And yes, I realize its because thats what the 460s&w uses))
 
I never understood why some firearms enthusiasts always beat down the options of having choices of more calibers! I like the idea and it would be a great addition to their line up if they ever decided to build them! I for one would definitely buy one!!!
 
I never understood why some firearms enthusiasts always beat down the options of having choices of more calibers! I like the idea and it would be a great addition to their line up if they ever decided to build them! I for one would definitely buy one!!!

Money talks, put out the investment to get it done and the business plan to recuperate that money and then some and I'm sure you'll get more calibres. These guys are a business, this is not just a hobby/money pit for them.
 
Money talks, put out the investment to get it done and the business plan to recuperate that money and then some and I'm sure you'll get more calibres. These guys are a business, this is not just a hobby/money pit for them.

Exactly,you might find a boutique shop like ATRS willing to do something like this,but a mass produced budget rifle? Not really a widely adopted caliber for a relatively high volume manufacture to even consider taking time away from readily available and already popular calibers
 
Listen I'm not demanding them to do it and let's face it they have a great product that sells like hot cakes!!! I own several NEA ar and love them! But day dreaming or throwing ideas out is one way to determine if they're is a market or demand for products! And still don't know why other gun owners are so against caliber options regardless of restrictions or price
 
Listen I'm not demanding them to do it and let's face it they have a great product that sells like hot cakes!!! I own several NEA ar and love them! But day dreaming or throwing ideas out is one way to determine if they're is a market or demand for products! And still don't know why other gun owners are so against caliber options regardless of restrictions or price

What I don't know is why some people keep hearing "I'm against that calibre" when what was said is actually "I don't think they're gonna make that gun in that calibre".

Stop imagining that we're against any calibre. We'Re just realistic enough to understand it'll never happen.
 
Instead of asking BCL to mass produce such a rifle;

How about buying one of their .308 rifles that are already available, and have it converted to shoot 45-Raptor.

If you have the time and the money; It can be done.
 
If you don't talk about it and don't ask questions then yes that shows there is no market! Make discussions about this and other calibers and then maybe manufacturers in general will show interest in providing us with more options! I never said all enthusiasts are against calibers but there's always a few that say " never it's not popular enough" Or too expensive! Also when I do get a bcl 102 which right now I don't really have a need for since I have several other .308 semis, but another caliber option I would be definitely interested in doing if even if it was by the hands of a local smith! Until then I'm super glad bcl gave us this opportunity to own a non res ar102 at a affordable price!! And
 
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