Modern Varmint style uppers and lowers

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Now I know this subject has been beaten to death and your answer about selling stripped uppers and lowers not being a possibility, but I am just wondering if you guys had anything in the works that might be able to compete with the Maccabee upper and lower?

I have reservations from what I have read on the various forums as to what exactly is being sold as there just is not a lot of solid info. Lots of speculation is found and the word "prototype" is constantly being thrown around, which concerns me from talking to you guys about what all you had to go through to get the final legal classification. Reading an article in Caliber magazine indicated that someone who had access to the FRT had called Caliber out for advertising a NR rifle for sale when the final FRT was possibly not in hand. With all of the "prototype" being thrown around on the forums it would appear that this may be the case. I hope not but at this point it is hard to know.

Back on topic though. Are you guys planning to offer anything similar? I know you guys are always working on new and innovative products for the firearms community.
I am very hopeful you have something in the works as I would prefer to purchase from a known business that has a long history of producing high quality products rather than "the new kid on the block" that no-one seems to know much about.

If you aren't already working on something similar PLEASE start on it!!
 
Daver_II said:
ATRS already released the "base" model varmint.

https://www.albertatacticalrifle.co...19-factory-modern-varmint/category_pathway-14

Which is For all intents and purposes, is the Bare bones version of the rifle with the least expensive options.

Ironically you will likely spend as much on an SLR by the time it is done too.
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True enough. To have an upper and lower that will take all common AR parts would be nice though. Personally I don't have any issue with the Timney triggers, but know some guys want more options in that regard.
Never hurts to ask, sometimes manufacturers listen and respond favorably.
 
Daver_II said:
ATRS already released the "base" model varmint.

https://www.albertatacticalrifle.co...19-factory-modern-varmint/category_pathway-14

Which is For all intents and purposes, is the Bare bones version of the rifle with the least expensive options.

Ironically you will likely spend as much on an SLR by the time it is done too.
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Not if you had all the parts already. I’d love to see a version of the sporter without any furniture, Just the assembled upper and lower, I’m sure lots of us have amassed an collection of parts, or have ar’s we would gladly strip to complete the rifle. This would be excellent competition for the SLR. A norc 20” and a receiver set gets you a NR rifle for much less. I would much rather a MV to go with my MH, but I can build an SLR and a second upper easily for a lot less than a varmint and not have a pile of discarded parts to throw on the EE for beans. And I think the part that is missed is we want to build it. Building a range toy has no appeal to me, building a coyote or target rifle sounds like a good time to me. No offense to ATRS, I absolutely love my MH and don’t expect the SLR to be a better rifle than a varmint, and still plan to own one. But I wanna get my build on!
 
Uisge said:
Not if you had all the parts already. I’d love to see a version of the sporter without any furniture, Just the assembled upper and lower, I’m sure lots of us have amassed an collection of parts, or have ar’s we would gladly strip to complete the rifle. This would be excellent competition for the SLR. A norc 20” and a receiver set gets you a NR rifle for much less. I would much rather a MV to go with my MH, but I can build an SLR and a second upper easily for a lot less than a varmint and not have a pile of discarded parts to throw on the EE for beans. And I think the part that is missed is we want to build it. Building a range toy has no appeal to me, building a coyote or target rifle sounds like a good time to me. No offense to ATRS, I absolutely love my MH and don’t expect the SLR to be a better rifle than a varmint, and still plan to own one. But I wanna get my build on!
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Sounds great but it's just someone's dream right now, could be five years before you actually see those available if ever.
 
rberresheim said:
not Sure how this thread went from MV to SLR but it would be nice to be able to get stripped upper with bolt carrier and charging system for the MV
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Agreed, not sure how the thread got derailed with worthless drivel.

So what exactly would you do with a "stripped" MV upper? Are you planning to make your own charge handle assembly, shell deflector, barrel extension, etc.? Given that ATRS already makes all of those parts I think it would be far less expensive to have them supply them than to make your own?
They already sell extra uppers for the MV and you can move the bolt carrier from upper to upper and simply change the bolt head if you are going 223 to 6.5 grendel.

Now IF they were to make a MV style upper and lower that would accept standard AR charge handle and other parts so basically similar to what Maccabee has done that would be a different story.
 
no-one special said:
Agreed, not sure how the thread got derailed with worthless drivel.

So what exactly would you do with a "stripped" MV upper? Are you planning to make your own charge handle assembly, shell deflector, barrel extension, etc.? Given that ATRS already makes all of those parts I think it would be far less expensive to have them supply them than to make your own?
They already sell extra uppers for the MV and you can move the bolt carrier from upper to upper and simply change the bolt head if you are going 223 to 6.5 grendel.

Now IF they were to make a MV style upper and lower that would accept standard AR charge handle and other parts so basically similar to what Maccabee has done that would be a different story.
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I was thinking about going this route, but you can't purchase,just the 6.5 upper.
The only option is with a bolt,which brings the cost up $2200.

Would be great to get the upper, less the bolt and barrel.
 
The factory mv price is right where I would want to be, but I would need it in 6.5 Grendel which is automatically a $200 upcharge. I also hate waiting for firearms, so if they had one on the shelf or a shorter turn around time then I would probably grab a modern Varmint instead.

I don’t mind it not being a match grade gun- it will always out shoot me anyways, so I would rather save money on the barrel/ handguard and keep in light as possible. This is a hunting rig for me!
 
rikkards said:
I scoffed on the ATRS price until I finished building my Precision AR...
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Quoted for truth. I've tried many times to cobble together a home made cheaper solution for mechanical things. Always spent more and got less unless I happened to be a subject matter expert. Turns out I'm not good at everything....
 
no-one special said:
Now I know this subject has been beaten to death and your answer about selling stripped uppers and lowers not being a possibility, but I am just wondering if you guys had anything in the works that might be able to compete with the Maccabee upper and lower?

I have reservations from what I have read on the various forums as to what exactly is being sold as there just is not a lot of solid info. Lots of speculation is found and the word "prototype" is constantly being thrown around, which concerns me from talking to you guys about what all you had to go through to get the final legal classification. Reading an article in Caliber magazine indicated that someone who had access to the FRT had called Caliber out for advertising a NR rifle for sale when the final FRT was possibly not in hand. With all of the "prototype" being thrown around on the forums it would appear that this may be the case. I hope not but at this point it is hard to know.

Back on topic though. Are you guys planning to offer anything similar? I know you guys are always working on new and innovative products for the firearms community.
I am very hopeful you have something in the works as I would prefer to purchase from a known business that has a long history of producing high quality products rather than "the new kid on the block" that no-one seems to know much about.

If you aren't already working on something similar PLEASE start on it!!
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Well as a matter of fact we have been working on a project we are calling MV "sporter", which we are in the midst of alpha testing. Essentially a Modern Varmint shaped upper and lower but with conventional AR parts being used in an effort to cut down on how many proprietary parts we have to make and to offer the consumer more latitude in the parts employed as well as an option for the DIY crowd.

Standard AR charge handle, trigger, mags, and most furniture can be used. Being as these share all AR parts compatibility and the only proprietary parts will be the upper and lower, our insurance carrier can not play the "proprietary firearm design adds further liability" card.

Having learned alot from the MH/MV process we are taking a little more time than may be necessary to test these, but will be producing a production run of them in the next month or so, at which time a "final production" rifle will be submitted to the SFSS/RCMP for FRT determination. Hopefully as these are based of an existing design that has a NR status it will be a short exam just to confirm what they already know. It is a variant of the Modern Varmint rifle, which already has NR status.
 
257hunter said:
So will this new upper function with the existing lower?
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No it won't as we have redesigned this to drop the spring loaded trunnion in the back of the lower so that a standard AR buffer retainer can be used as well as mil spec style fire control parts.
It is a different gun but shares the look and some of the features the MV does in order to hopefully keep the NR legal status.
 
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