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    Why are LAR-15 magazines OK but not Beowulf?

    Why are LAR-15 magazines OK but not Beowulf?

    I assume it's because the LAR-15 is a pistol and Beowulf is not.

    Then why aren’t we allowed to have 10 round AR15 magazines in AR pistols?

    If I had a Beowulf pistol, can I use a 10 round magazine on that? (30 round .223)

    What defines a "pistol" in Canada?

    I'm just trying to understand this "dual use" definition better.

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    We are allowed 10 round 223/556 pistol mags in AR pistols chambered in 223/556... You are also allowed to use that same mag in a AR rifle chambered in 223/556.

    This above gun is legally registered as a pistol, and take its proper 10rd 225/556 pistol mags.
    Picture below it is an AR rifle, which you can also use the above 10rd pistol mag in it, legally.



    The whole beowolf argument thing is that no one actually designed said mags, they simply used the existing 223/556 mags as such, hence the limit of 2rd for anything that handles .50 beowolf.

    This is very different than loading 9mm ammo in a magazine designed for .40cal; which is ok (and legal).

    Sure the law isn't clearly written, and you can still find "5rd" beowolf mags in the wild, but I wouln't risk it, you could lose alot in the end... just get legal 10rd pistol mags for your AR needs
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    I use my Beowulf mags, I havent heard they were illegal yet !

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    Ya , it some confusing stuff man.
    And to top it all off , a criminal gets 30 rnounders.

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    Lol can’t resist....

    Piston mags are for pistols, but there are AR10 and AR15 pistols... because of this the mags labeled pistols can have 10 rounds but as long as they are not modified they can be used in anything they fit....

    The AR10 and AR15 rifle mags are just that designed for a rifle so limited to 5 rounds but could still be used in an AR pistol because they fit.... but can only hold 5 because that’s what they are designed and intended for....

    Beowulf was more or less a gov’t wording mess up... they are intended to be a rifle magazine and intended to be used with .50 Beowulf. Just because you could fit way more .223 in them doesn’t mean that is legal (not gonna get into the legal argument on this). This was further vilified because many were (modified) crimping the feed lips and such, this is also a no no accoutring to the wording of the law...

    If a .50 Beowulf pistol mag was created it would still be the same issue...

    Pistol in Canada is exactly that a firearm deemed a pistol and a magazine specifically made and designed to operate in that pistol and marked accourdingly...

    At the end of the day, they are working on ways to stop this and it’s important to have your docs on hand as many have had charges laid and things confiscated to to an I’ll informed officer. Even thought you did nothing wrong it’s a good way to wreck your day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tharkhold View Post


    We are allowed 10 round 223/556 pistol mags in AR pistols chambered in 223/556... You are also allowed to use that same mag in a AR rifle chambered in 223/556.

    This above gun is legally registered as a pistol, and take its proper 10rd 225/556 pistol mags.
    Picture below it is an AR rifle, which you can also use the above 10rd pistol mag in it, legally.



    The whole beowolf argument thing is that no one actually designed said mags, they simply used the existing 223/556 mags as such, hence the limit of 2rd for anything that handles .50 beowolf.

    This is very different than loading 9mm ammo in a magazine designed for .40cal; which is ok (and legal).

    Sure the law isn't clearly written, and you can still find "5rd" beowolf mags in the wild, but I wouln't risk it, you could lose alot in the end... just get legal 10rd pistol mags for your AR needs
    Thanks for the info.

    What are those polymer 10 round magazines?

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    In the case of the Beowulf, dual use was about 5.56 / .50 Beo, not about pistol / rifle. At some point they were making .50 mags with 5.56 followers. That got the RCMP lab people all bent out of shape and they invented the term "dual use" magazine. After that, they applied the "dual use" definition they invented to Butler Creek 10/22 mags.

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    lol, can anyone find the definition of a handgun in Canadian legislature/case law/etc?? I'm currently going thru some, but can't find any. All I have is one for "firearm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1 View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    What are those polymer 10 round magazines?


    MFT LAR mags, with an extention to make it a "20rd" magazine physical length (NOT capacity wise though )

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    Quote Originally Posted by tharkhold View Post
    lol, can anyone find the definition of a handgun in Canadian legislature/case law/etc?? I'm currently going thru some, but can't find any. All I have is one for "firearm".
    they're gonna have to define it if they're gonna go through with this "handgun ban" lol. stupid.

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