The new 783 Varmint

TacticalTeacher · Feb 2, 2019

Andy said:
"Tradition" perhaps? Same reason why the 22-250 carries a 1:14, which seems to be because that twist is optimized for bullets lighter than 55 grs which were what was originally used.

There remains a belief that twists faster than 1:9 will "over stabilize" the 55 gr and lighter bullets.

Andy....

Many years ago I stumbled upon a take off 1 in 9” twist Remmy M700 SPS tac 20” Barrel at Rick’s shop (ATRS). I took it to Elwood Epps shop and they installed and rechambered that rig to 22-250 in hopes that I could launch Sierra 69 grain MK booolts at NSCC in Connaught Ranges.

I tried out that combination in the Ottawa Valley on bilingual groundhogs with phenomenal success. Launched several of them towards Arnprior. Hahahahaha I could tell they were bilingual since I wore amplifying ear muffs I swear I could hear the Holy Calis Taber....you know the rest!

A buddy of mine from the Durham Maxwell are of Grey County wanted it so badly for his groundhogs and other misadventures, he made me an offer I could not resist. It was a wonderful experiment,

9” twist Remmy SPS Tac in 22-250....who woulda thought?

Cheers, Barney

Andy · Feb 2, 2019

I like. This might be enough for me to get into 6.5 Creedmoor.

jiffx2781 · Feb 2, 2019

^^^ FYI the Bergara B-14 HMR comes in 22-250 with a 1in9 twist.

nomad 68 · Feb 2, 2019

I understand the heavy barrel trend for bench work. But I can't quite understand why they are quite successfully marketed as hunting rigs. I own a heavy barrel predator rifle and it's a b*itch to lug around lol. Going forward, my barrels for hunting purposes will be sporter profile.just my $.02.

Andy · Feb 2, 2019

nomad 68 said:
I understand the heavy barrel trend for bench work. But I can't quite understand why they are quite successfully marketed as hunting rigs. I own a heavy barrel predator rifle and it's a b*itch to lug around lol. Going forward, my barrels for hunting purposes will be sporter profile.just my $.02.

These weigh about 7.5 lbs without scope. That's not considered very heavy, especially with a 26" barrel.

Chumlee Bumsnag · Feb 2, 2019

meathook said:
Reading is hard

The 783s in the synthetic stocks were susposed to be free floated but lots were touching the barrel because of the flexibility of the stock. I dremeled mine out in the channel and it made a huge improvement. These ones probably won't have that problem with a wood stock. Easy fix either way.

nomad 68 · Feb 2, 2019

Andy said:
These weigh about 7.5 lbs without scope. That's not considered very heavy, especially with a 26" barrel.

I read that weight somewhere and I have to admit, I am quite skeptical of it. A 26" heavy barrel with laminate at 7.5lb? That seems implausible to me.

Chumlee Bumsnag · Feb 2, 2019

Maybe. A 783 30.06 with a 22" barrel and Vortex Viper scope only weighs 8lb.7oz.

Butcherbill · Feb 2, 2019

That’s a nice looking rifle, I wish Remington would offer these in a left hand action. I would snap up a .308 in a heartbeat.

Andy · Feb 2, 2019

nomad 68 said:
I read that weight somewhere and I have to admit, I am quite skeptical of it. A 26" heavy barrel with laminate at 7.5lb? That seems implausible to me.

Just reporting what Remington states on their website.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-783/model-783-varmint

Go to the table and scroll right.

MODEL 783 VARMINT SPECIFICATIONS

CALIBER		TWIST (RIGHT HAND)	OVERALL LENGTH	LENGTH OF PULL	DROP (COMB)	DROP (HEEL)	BARREL MATERIAL	BARREL FINISH	STOCK MATERIAL	STOCK FINISH	AVG. WT. (LBS.)
308 Win	Find Locally	1:10	45-3/4"	13 3/8"	1"	1 5/8"	Carbon Steel	Matte Blue	Brown Laminate	High Gloss	7.5
223 Remington	Find Locally	1:9	45-3/4"	13 3/8"	1"	1 5/8"	Carbon Steel	Matte Blue	Brown Laminate	High Gloss	7.5
22-250 Remington	Find Locally	1:14	45-3/4"	13 3/8"	1"	1 5/8"	Carbon Steel	Matte Blue	Brown Laminate	High Gloss	7.5
243 Win	Find Locally	1:9-1/8	45-3/4"	13 3/8"	1"	1 5/8"	Carbon Steel	Matte Blue	Brown Laminate	High Gloss	7.5
6.5 Creedmoor	Find Locally	1:8	45 3/4"	13 3/8"	1"	1 5/8"	Carbon Steel	Matte Blue	Brown Laminate	High Gloss	7.5

nomad 68 · Feb 2, 2019

That's amazing. the stock must be skeletonized internally to hit that weight target. I've got a savage 10xp predator with a 22" medium heavy in synthetic( non accustock) and it weighs 7 1/4 lb empty.

mbogo3 · Feb 2, 2019

remington jim said:
Tikka T3X come in 22-250 with a 8 TWIST now ! RJ

Now it will be just like a modern .250-3000 with light bullets.

mbogo3 · Feb 2, 2019

I needs a .222 1-14

Suther · Feb 2, 2019

Chumlee Bumsnag said:
Great. Now they change the cough drop bolt knob. Is the barrel free floated on these?

They switched out the bolt knob on the heavy barrel models too. I think only the base model 783 (like my 7mag) come with the stupid shaped knob. I'll be cutting mine off and threading the stub one of these days...

Suther · Feb 2, 2019

Andy said:
Just reporting what Remington states on their website.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-783/model-783-varmint

Go to the table and scroll right.

MODEL 783 VARMINT SPECIFICATIONS

CALIBER TWIST
(RIGHT HAND) OVERALL
LENGTH LENGTH
OF PULL DROP
(COMB) DROP
(HEEL) BARREL
MATERIAL BARREL
FINISH STOCK
MATERIAL STOCK
FINISH AVG. WT.
(LBS.)
308 Win Find Locally 1:10 45-3/4" 13 3/8" 1" 1 5/8" Carbon Steel Matte Blue Brown Laminate High Gloss 7.5
223 Remington Find Locally 1:9 45-3/4" 13 3/8" 1" 1 5/8" Carbon Steel Matte Blue Brown Laminate High Gloss 7.5
22-250 Remington Find Locally 1:14 45-3/4" 13 3/8" 1" 1 5/8" Carbon Steel Matte Blue Brown Laminate High Gloss 7.5
243 Win Find Locally 1:9-1/8 45-3/4" 13 3/8" 1" 1 5/8" Carbon Steel Matte Blue Brown Laminate High Gloss 7.5
6.5 Creedmoor Find Locally 1:8 45 3/4" 13 3/8" 1" 1 5/8" Carbon Steel Matte Blue Brown Laminate High Gloss 7.5

I'll throw my 7mag on the scale in a bit. With a regular barrel at 24" it should be lighter than the varmints...

Chumlee Bumsnag · Feb 2, 2019

Suther said:
They switched out the bolt knob on the heavy barrel models too. I think only the base model 783 (like my 7mag) come with the stupid shaped knob. I'll be cutting mine off and threading the stub one of these days...

Its nice that they addressed that in this version. I just ordered a bolt on lift knob on ebay and am going to try it before I cut off the cough drop

Suther · Feb 2, 2019

Chumlee Bumsnag said:
Its nice that they addressed that in this version. I just ordered a bolt on lift knob on ebay and am going to try it before I cut off the cough drop
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Interesting. Right now I have one of those Tourbon rubber slip on knobs, but I don't really like it. What did the one cost you?

And my 7mag weighs exactly 7lb6oz, so I highly doubt the varmints with a heavy barrel that's 2 inches longer will be 7lb8oz. Plus the wood stock is probably heavier than my plastic one, and it comes with a rail... Now I want to see a varmint on the scale just to see how off remington is...

uncledillers · Feb 2, 2019

I think you will find the slower twist rates are due to their primary intended use, which is "varmint gun". In which case the traditional idea is a flat trajectory, attained by a light weight bullet going super fast, so no fast twist required...

But if you are marketing a "long range varmint" gun, then the twist rates will likely increase.

Chumlee Bumsnag · Feb 2, 2019

It was around $48.

Suther · Feb 3, 2019

Chumlee Bumsnag said:
It was around $48.

Damn. The Tourbon rubber ball was only $15 for a two pack (two diff sizes). It makes it pretty bulbous (I'll take a pic later maybe) but it's still an improvement over stock.

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