Remington 700 PCR SB Shorty

In another thread it was claimed the FRT for this is Restricted by virtue of being a pistol. Can you confirm or deny this?
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This is non restricted. It's a short barreled rifle done up by Remington specifically for us.
 
JoeShmow said:
What's the big deal with 300 BLK?
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A 308 under 16 inch is not interesting performance wise and no ammo is designed for it. Other than a big fireball it's useless and a waste of money.
It's the same story for a 10.5 inch 223 but at least there is cheap ammo for it.

300 blk out make more sense , ammo is taylored for the short barrel application and you can shoot subs and supersonics. You can still hunt with it too. It make an ideal short rifle package.
 
kevin9934 said:
A 308 under 16 inch is not interesting performance wise and no ammo is designed for it. Other than a big fireball it's useless and a waste of money.
It's the same story for a 10.5 inch 223 but at least there is cheap ammo for it.

300 blk out make more sense , ammo is taylored for the short barrel application and you can shoot subs and supersonics. You can still hunt with it too. It make an ideal short rifle package.
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I see. Thank you.
 
For those saying sbr 308 is useless ballistically, they are not bad actually, especially when used with heavier bullets and specific powders. You could have a 180grn bullet going 2200-2300 fps with factory ammo, and faster with handloads. I plan to experiment with different weights of heavier bullets when I get mine. It will be a really fun project!
 
kevin9934 said:
A 308 under 16 inch is not interesting performance wise and no ammo is designed for it. Other than a big fireball it's useless and a waste of money.
It's the same story for a 10.5 inch 223 but at least there is cheap ammo for it.

300 blk out make more sense , ammo is taylored for the short barrel application and you can shoot subs and supersonics. You can still hunt with it too. It make an ideal short rifle package.
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if you like big bangs, and big fireballs, it makes perfect sense.
i'm in for the .308 lol.
 
kevin9934 said:
A 308 under 16 inch is not interesting performance wise and no ammo is designed for it. Other than a big fireball it's useless and a waste of money.
It's the same story for a 10.5 inch 223 but at least there is cheap ammo for it.

300 blk out make more sense , ammo is taylored for the short barrel application and you can shoot subs and supersonics. You can still hunt with it too. It make an ideal short rifle package.
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Hogwash. Regardless of barrel length, a 308 will always outperform the 300bo.

13.5" 308=2450fps w/150gr pill
13" 300bo=2300fps w/110gr pill.

Its not even close. The 308 smokes the 300bo.
 
kevin9934 said:
A 308 under 16 inch is not interesting performance wise and no ammo is designed for it. Other than a big fireball it's useless and a waste of money.
It's the same story for a 10.5 inch 223 but at least there is cheap ammo for it.

300 blk out make more sense , ammo is taylored for the short barrel application and you can shoot subs and supersonics. You can still hunt with it too. It make an ideal short rifle package.
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" 10.5 inch .223 useless???" Is that why so many LE and Military have adopted the DD MK18 ??
 
CanadianSummers said:
" 10.5 inch .223 useless???" Is that why so many LE and Military have adopted the DD MK18 ??
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Maybe because LE/MIL don't clear houses with bolt action rifle... We speak of a 10.5 bolt gun here in case you forgot.

for sure a 308 win will more powerfull than a 300 BLK but most of that power will make it unpleasant to shoot making it pointless. personally, it seems like a silly idea to me. Based on my limited experience with a 12' 330 BLK I would guess a 12″ 308 with 150 grain bullets would give you similar velocities with a 125 grain projectile(2300 fps) with far less blast and concussion. A 12 inch 308 win will require you to wear double ear protection and it will still be unpleasant to shoot.

Short barrel 308 Win are great and I own a 16.5''. But shorter than 16.5 inch you start to loose alot.
 
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