Remington 700 PCR SB Shorty

Gravel Agency said:
Hey guys,

A few answers that we know right now.

ETA - Mid Summer

Canadian Version - Yes, shown above is the Canadian Version as the US version has the Arm Brace

Calibers - Other calibers might follow but we don't know yet

Price - Will be up to the dealers and will depend on the US exchange rate at the time.

Left Hand - Unlikely at this time.

Rails - 0 MOA rail and you can add an M-LOK rail up front on the top to run iron sights

Magazines - AICS Magpul
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Thanks, the ability to throw some irons on here makes me very interested in this. Especially in .308
 
Suther said:
The only advantage to the 300bo is the ability to use subsonic rounds, but with no suppressors in Canada that advantage means nothing.
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Incorrect.

Suppressed or not, when fired, a subsonic round is significantly quieter than a supersonic one. Yes you could load down the 308win to shoot subsonic, but with a 1:12 or 1:10 twist barrel (in my experience) it won’t stabilize much over 150g. The faster twist barrel on a 300blk gives you much better performance with regards to subsonic shooting.
 
GMC403 said:
Incorrect.

Suppressed or not, when fired, a subsonic round is significantly quieter than a supersonic one. Yes you could load down the 308win to shoot subsonic, but with a 1:12 or 1:10 twist barrel (in my experience) it won’t stabilize much over 150g. The faster twist barrel on a 300blk gives you much better performance with regards to subsonic shooting.
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The 308 will have a 1 in 10" twist and it will certainly stabilize bullets up to 180gr. Also FWIW this guy did some ballistics testing on short 308 barrels: https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/30...-length-and-velocity-a-six-inch-308-bolt-gun/
 
GMC403 said:
Agree,
A 1:10 will stabilize a 220gr no problem, But in my experience with testing, weights over 150gr suffered in the stability and accuracy department when shot at subsonic speed.
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Subsonic 200 gr to 240gr 308 RUAG suffered no accuracy or stability stability issues when fired through 1-10 twist barrels & barrel length ran from 16 to 20”, test firing was done with and without suppressor to confirm accuracy/stability !! Plus I need one of these Rem 700 PCR SB Shorty ;);)

gadget
 
Very interesting. I don't know much about ballistics but I wonder how short you can go before your ~400 yard accuracy and put down power suffers. But man, I like the idea of packing something that small around, not to mention that much lighter without the extra ~6" of heavy barrel.
 
I suspect that a 12 1/2" .308 with a M-4 type stock might be a bit on the nasty side, as far as recoil goes. Putting on a brake will help with the recoil, but it might be a bit on the rude side when it comes to blast.
 
tiriaq said:
I suspect that a 12 1/2" .308 with a M-4 type stock might be a bit on the nasty side, as far as recoil goes. Putting on a brake will help with the recoil, but it might be a bit on the rude side when it comes to blast.
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It’ll be loud for sure but I don’t think it’s bite will be that bad, I’ve had an M4 stock on a short barrel 12g for a few years and until I ran a bunch of 3” sabots through a longer rifled barrel I never needed a recoil pad. The M4 buttstock wasn’t bad, the 3” magnum loads beat the hell out of me. Shooting off bags while sighting I’m the scope I had mounted didn’t help, I was black and blue for awhile lol.
 
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