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    I’m in for 300 blk version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin9934 View Post
    Maybe because LE/MIL don't clear houses with bolt action rifle... We speak of a 10.5 bolt gun here in case you forgot.

    for sure a 308 win will more powerfull than a 300 BLK but most of that power will make it unpleasant to shoot making it pointless. personally, it seems like a silly idea to me. Based on my limited experience with a 12' 330 BLK I would guess a 12″ 308 with 150 grain bullets would give you similar velocities with a 125 grain projectile(2300 fps) with far less blast and concussion. A 12 inch 308 win will require you to wear double ear protection and it will still be unpleasant to shoot.

    Short barrel 308 Win are great and I own a 16.5''. But shorter than 16.5 inch you start to loose alot.
    First, whether it's a bolt gun or semi has no significant bearing on ballistics so I'm not sure why you bring that up.

    Second, The difference from a 18" 308 to a 13.5" 308 is a loss of 166fps. (2616 fps vs 2450fps). The 308 w/110gr bullet goes 2670fps from a 13.5" barrel, which is over 350fps faster than the same weight in a 300bo.

    If you look at the numbers, rather than subjective opinions, the 308 is far better regardless of barrel length - and this isn't even factoring in the fact that the 300bo version comes with a shorter barrel. The only advantage to the 300bo is the ability to use subsonic rounds, but with no suppressors in Canada that advantage means nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingBurnmouf View Post
    Ahhh All these left-handed elitist...
    We can’t help it that we were made that much better than the rest lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by jw8 View Post
    if you like big bangs, and big fireballs, it makes perfect sense.
    i'm in for the .308 lol.
    Hells yeah, I want one on sheer muzzle blast alone. Big Bang, big flash = big grins. Would pair up well with my 12.5” barreled 870, I don’t even care that I can’t get one in a LH action lol. I’d hunt with it just because I can, I rarely shoot at game past 100yds locally so this would be suitable. I’m sure it would be fine out to 200yds as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suther View Post
    First, whether it's a bolt gun or semi has no significant bearing on ballistics so I'm not sure why you bring that up.

    Second, The difference from a 18" 308 to a 13.5" 308 is a loss of 166fps. (2616 fps vs 2450fps). The 308 w/110gr bullet goes 2670fps from a 13.5" barrel, which is over 350fps faster than the same weight in a 300bo.

    If you look at the numbers, rather than subjective opinions, the 308 is far better regardless of barrel length - and this isn't even factoring in the fact that the 300bo version comes with a shorter barrel. The only advantage to the 300bo is the ability to use subsonic rounds, but with no suppressors in Canada that advantage means nothing.
    100% correct. ^^

    lol I had to laugh when he said " because its a bolt gun not semi-auto"

    Break-action, lever-action, semi-auto, bolt action has absolutely nothing to do with the velocity of a projectile.

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    So for the twist rate:

    .223 is 1 in 9
    .308 is 1 in 10

    Weight on both will be about 7lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravel Agency View Post
    So for the twist rate:

    .223 is 1 in 9
    .308 is 1 in 10

    Weight on both will be about 7lbs
    That is heavier than I would have thought. Still light. But heavier. Still want one!

    Tagged for interest.

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    Another vendor is advertising the 308 version as 6.15 lbs for the braced version, swap out for the CTR and its roughly 6.25 lbs...

    https://www.irunguns.com/handguns/bo...is-braceg96811

    If the 308 is sub 7 lbs naked I am soooooo IN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosoraptor View Post
    Another vendor is advertising the 308 version as 6.15 lbs for the braced version, swap out for the CTR and its roughly 6.25 lbs...

    https://www.irunguns.com/handguns/bo...is-braceg96811

    If the 308 is sub 7 lbs naked I am soooooo IN
    TFB weighed a 300bo model, and it came in at 7lb 7oz with a brace. I don't see how the 308 version could be 6.15lbs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suther View Post
    TFB weighed a 300bo model, and it came in at 7lb 7oz with a brace. I don't see how the 308 version could be 6.15lbs??
    Just checked out their review, thanks for the heads up even if it took some of the wind outta my sails!

    I was a bit skeptical with the other vendors optimistic weight numbers

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