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    Bill C-21 Business Update from the CSAAA - READ NOW

    We just got some information from the CSAAA regarding Bill C-21:

    Bill C-21 Business Update

    Our entire industry has a large number of concerns and questions about this very vague Bill C-21 and the regulations announced on Monday.

    CSAAA is determined to get answers for its members as soon as possible, so we can offer guidance and form a strong plan moving forward.

    CSAAA had a meeting with Public Safety and CFP this morning.

    Here is what we can offer so far:

    At this moment, CBSA has not been instructed to halt or delay imports while this law is being debated by Parliament.

    There are currently no regulations or clarification other than the Minister’s Mandate Letter and what is currently available publicly.
    (Click here for more information). We have contacted the Library of Parliament to obtain these regulations as soon as possible.

    Transfers that have already been initiated once this “freeze” comes into force, will still be processed as usual. Transfers already initiated will not be denied due to the “freeze”.

    We asked: if a firearm has been purchased, but the transfer is not yet initiated will it still be eligible for transfer if/when these regulations come into force?
    CFP was unable to answer this question and will get back to us with answers as soon as they can.

    We informed CFP that our businesses are dealing with extreme issues with the Business Web Portal and call-in center. This has been noted and the technical team will work to make these services more reliable.

    The regulatory framework of Bill C-21 deems air guns that replicate or resemble a firearm by near precision will be prohibited.
    This is very vague, so we asked what exactly they meant by “likeness” or “replica”. These standards are currently set by CBSA when the firearm is imported.

    Details and clarification were requested on the update for regulations on cartridge magazine capacity limits, and if non-detachable or rimfire magazines would be exempt.
    CFP and Public Safety were unable to offer any more information or clarity than what is currently posted.

    Our industry must manufacture and order inventory well in advance. In the Minister’s announcement on Monday, it was verbally mentioned that a list of firearms will be added to the May 1st OIC. CSAAA requested a list of these firearms or at least an idea as to what type of firearms will be added so we can prepare our industry.
    CSAAA was informed that no information was available on this topic, other than that brief and vague announcement made on Monday. We were unable to get any hint as to what might be added to the OIC.

    Clarity on “advancing secure storage” and “updating firearms markings” was requested.
    No information was available, as the regulations are not available at this time.
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    The important part:

    Transfers that have already been initiated once this “freeze” comes into force, will still be processed as usual. Transfers already initiated will not be denied due to the “freeze”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarstarCanada View Post
    The important part:
    it may be working for the buy from dealers ...

    there's no way to initiate private transfer other than a seller making a transfer request by calling CFP/CFC which is currently almost absolute unobtanium ...
    If a politician’s life is worth armed guards, why aren't our children's lives worth the ability for us to give them the same level of protection?

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    Advancing secure storage is what worries me. Sure, keep ownership of your handguns. My fear is that we will no longer be able to store these items in our home. How much more secure than an actual Safe can they legislate?

    Time to open up Secure Storage cafe with cleaning/gun smithing tables?

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    SNAFU

    Defund the Liberal propaganda ministry, AKA the CBC.
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    So if an order status is "Transfer in Progress" we're in the clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinerofallfun View Post
    So if an order status is "Transfer in Progress" we're in the clear?
    Who knows, depends on the store. That could mean they are in the process of initiating your transfer. You'd have to ask them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuhalsky View Post
    Advancing secure storage is what worries me. Sure, keep ownership of your handguns. My fear is that we will no longer be able to store these items in our home. How much more secure than an actual Safe can they legislate?

    Time to open up Secure Storage cafe with cleaning/gun smithing tables?
    central storage would be a complete cluster####. They will not do that,
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    they cant answer because because like the oic may 1 2022, they have now facking clue what it all means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBeato View Post
    they cant answer because because like the oic may 1 2022, they have now facking clue what it all means.
    it will be left in the shadow just like the Ar15 ban, we still don't know how the biy back will work, i am afraid that some will lose a lot of money on this.

    this new ban also puts the bill on honest citizens with valid licenses. Some put a lot of their hard earned money in their collection, it is actually an imvestment that could be either sold or kept in the family as an investment...truly disgusting. I still prefer to be able to use them until my death but it makes me sick that they would go all to trash when I'll be unable to go shoot once a year or be member of a gun club.

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